Super Smash Bros. BRAWL (All topics Merged)

[KenshinX]

The OFFICIAL definition of Tiers:

Tiers: Tiers are a general breakdown of how each character stacks up in comparison to the other characters in the game. The tier list assumes a few things. First and most importantly is that it is based on the current metagame (which is based on the mind-games and technical skill of the top players). Current is the vital point here, it is not based on future potential, but on current potential (as a note here Fox is considered to have the most potential in the game). Second, the tier list assumes those playing are of near equal skill, and that they are both near the top of the technical (human) ability for their given character.

What exactly does all this mean? Essentially under most circumstances the higher tiered character will beat the lower tiered character. It is a simply a list of overall advantages, which characters have more advantages in more match ups than other characters. What it doesn't mean is that Sheik will always destroy Marth simply because she is located 2 spots above Marth on the tier list. The impact of the tier list at the top levels of play is minimal once you move into the High Tier and above. Instead, counter characters begin to play a larger role. This also brings up a large portion of the confusion regarding the tier list because a lower ranked character can be a counter to a character ranked much higher. The easiest example here is the Ice Climbers versus Sheik. While Sheik has more advantages in more match ups, the Ice Climbers are one of the few characters that can chain grab her, and as a result they are her only hard counter.


(NOTE: I do not claim any of my list to be fact. Constructive criticism is wanted, but not random flaming because I put your favorite at a tier level you didnt like. If you really want me to change it, state smart, structed textual or video evidence of why X character should be in Y tier. . . If you disagree with the list, just give a small explanation why and if it's plausible i will adjust the best I can. )

Make sure you read the topic, my list will have several updates, and since Gamefaqs has no edit button, it will have to be posted deep in the topic. Once a New list has been made, DO NOT REFER TO OLD ONES. This was a confusing mistake to many in the old topic

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SSBB Fab 8 (most used chars):
King DeDeDe, Wolf ,Diddy Kong ,Pit ,Meta Knight(#1) ,Lucario , Sonic , Snake 

Alright, here it is, the first edition of this topic.

Top Tier:
Snake
Meta Knight
Falco
R.O.B.
Toon Link

High Tier:
Mr. Game and Watch
Diddy Kong
Marth
Zelda
Fox
Pit
Wolf
King Dedede
Ice Climbers
Olimar
Pikachu
Zero Suit Samus
Ness
Lucas



Mid Tier:
Pokemon Trainer
Luigi
Lucario
Kirby
Mario
Bowser
Wario
Sheik
Donkey Kong
Peach

Low tier :
lke
Yoshi
Sonic
Samus
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
Link
Ganondorf

Copy and Pasted from the current list atm
 

[Aura-Master]

Excuse me ppl but can someone explain how wolf can be cheap

Spaming side smash, that and blaster, but I dont care for the blaster, Falco's is WAY mor savage, and annoying, !

@ Nigel, you would be surprised, ROB is top tier!

yeah, I'm thinking of using ROB now

[Akeme]

Whoa peach mid tier and meta knight is top tier how is that, remeber im not complaining just wondering how meta knight is top tier plus i thought peach was higher then that

[Codyman155]

Excuse me ppl but can someone explain how wolf can be cheap

Spaming side smash, that and blaster, but I dont care for the blaster, Falco's is WAY mor savage, and annoying, !

@ Nigel, you would be surprised, ROB is top tier!

!,all I can say is ROB is pretty good,his recovery is one of the best(Hovers your way back to the stage!).
Also,I'm getting used to fighting Wolf now,characters have its advantaged and disadvantage,anyways.

Daigo,How am I with Yoshi and Lucas?
 

[The Notic]

The OFFICIAL definition of Tiers:

Tiers: Tiers are a general breakdown of how each character stacks up in comparison to the other characters in the game. The tier list assumes a few things. First and most importantly is that it is based on the current metagame (which is based on the mind-games and technical skill of the top players). Current is the vital point here, it is not based on future potential, but on current potential (as a note here Fox is considered to have the most potential in the game). Second, the tier list assumes those playing are of near equal skill, and that they are both near the top of the technical (human) ability for their given character.

What exactly does all this mean? Essentially under most circumstances the higher tiered character will beat the lower tiered character. It is a simply a list of overall advantages, which characters have more advantages in more match ups than other characters. What it doesn't mean is that Sheik will always destroy Marth simply because she is located 2 spots above Marth on the tier list. The impact of the tier list at the top levels of play is minimal once you move into the High Tier and above. Instead, counter characters begin to play a larger role. This also brings up a large portion of the confusion regarding the tier list because a lower ranked character can be a counter to a character ranked much higher. The easiest example here is the Ice Climbers versus Sheik. While Sheik has more advantages in more match ups, the Ice Climbers are one of the few characters that can chain grab her, and as a result they are her only hard counter.


(NOTE: I do not claim any of my list to be fact. Constructive criticism is wanted, but not random flaming because I put your favorite at a tier level you didnt like. If you really want me to change it, state smart, structed textual or video evidence of why X character should be in Y tier. . . If you disagree with the list, just give a small explanation why and if it's plausible i will adjust the best I can. )

Make sure you read the topic, my list will have several updates, and since Gamefaqs has no edit button, it will have to be posted deep in the topic. Once a New list has been made, DO NOT REFER TO OLD ONES. This was a confusing mistake to many in the old topic

DONT POST YET!
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SSBB Fab 8 (most used chars):
King DeDeDe, Wolf ,Diddy Kong ,Pit ,Meta Knight(#1) ,Lucario , Sonic , Snake 

Alright, here it is, the first edition of this topic.

Top Tier:
Snake
Meta Knight
Falco
R.O.B.
Toon Link

High Tier:
Mr. Game and Watch
Diddy Kong
Marth
Zelda
Fox
Pit
Wolf
King Dedede
Ice Climbers
Olimar
Pikachu
Zero Suit Samus
Ness
Lucas



Mid Tier:
Pokemon Trainer
Luigi
Lucario
Kirby
Mario
Bowser
Wario
Sheik
Donkey Kong
Peach

Low tier :
lke
Yoshi
Sonic
Samus
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
Link
Ganondorf

Copy and Pasted from the current list atm
 

I agree with this list, it does have some odly placed characters, but can't argue mutch with it, I still think G&W should be top, switched with TL, and maybe boost Capt. Falcon up a lvl!

[KenshinX]

Whoa peach mid tier and meta knight is top tier how is that, remeber im not complaining just wondering how meta knight is top tier plus i thought peach was higher then that

Fight me and I'll show you

[BigJ]

Lol, don't really agree with that list, but whatever.. I don't care about tier systems at all. The way I see it, its just melee players that got Brawl, played as a couple of chars, noticed they lost some things from melee to brawl and automatically thought that they were sh*t.

[The Notic]

Whoa peach mid tier and meta knight is top tier how is that, remeber im not complaining just wondering how meta knight is top tier plus i thought peach was higher then that

Fight me and I'll show you

Quote FTW! You obviously havent played a good MetaKnight player Akeme, Meta's the combo master!

[Codyman155]

I don't get why Capt.Falcon and Link is on low-tire......?

[The Notic]

I don't get why Capt.Falcon and Link is on low-tire......?

Yeah, I said Capt Falcon should be moved up one, and Link got nerfd, his attacks are weaker and he has a horrible recovery, but theres too many in mid tier allready, so i think he's better as low tier, other characters are better than him, I think this List is decent!

[Akeme]

Lol, don't really agree with that list, but whatever.. I don't care about tier systems at all. The way I see it, its just melee players that got Brawl, played as a couple of chars, noticed they lost some things from melee to brawl and automatically thought that they were sh*t.

Exactly

[The Notic]

Lol, don't really agree with that list, but whatever.. I don't care about tier systems at all. The way I see it, its just melee players that got Brawl, played as a couple of chars, noticed they lost some things from melee to brawl and automatically thought that they were sh*t.

Exactly

Yeah, tier's only define how the characters abilitys are, not the players, like a good low tier character in the right hands will do massive damge to a high tier, it all depends who's behind the weel, !

[[Asian-Jesus]]

Haha, I feel so awesome for maining ROB now. 
(Though, I feel kinda bad since PKMN Trainer is mid-tier. Whatever. I'll still try and own people with him.  )

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[MaverickZr0]

Whoa peach mid tier and meta knight is top tier how is that, remeber im not complaining just wondering how meta knight is top tier plus i thought peach was higher then that

Meta knight can combo like a beast.

[Akeme]

Whoa peach mid tier and meta knight is top tier how is that, remeber im not complaining just wondering how meta knight is top tier plus i thought peach was higher then that

Fight me and I'll show you

Quote FTW! You obviously havent played a good MetaKnight player Akeme, Meta's the combo master!

Well i only played online once

Lol, don't really agree with that list, but whatever.. I don't care about tier systems at all. The way I see it, its just melee players that got Brawl, played as a couple of chars, noticed they lost some things from melee to brawl and automatically thought that they were sh*t.

Exactly

Yeah, tier's only define how the characters abilitys are, not the players, like a good low tier character in the right hands will do massive damge to a high tier, it all depends who's behind the weel, !

Exactly

[Aura-Master]

Haha, I feel so awesome for maining ROB now. 
(Though, I feel kinda bad since PKMN Trainer is mid-tier. Whatever. I'll still try and own people with him.  )

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yeah, I think ROB is cool with me

and I know how you feel with pkmn trainer

[[Asian-Jesus]]

Haha, I feel so awesome for maining ROB now. 
(Though, I feel kinda bad since PKMN Trainer is mid-tier. Whatever. I'll still try and own people with him.  )

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yeah, I think ROB is cool with me

and I know how you feel with pkmn trainer

Yeah, ROB is pretty good. His down B mixes things up when used right.

And hell yeah PKMN trainer is just pure concentrated AWESOMENESS. (although, Gary Oak should've been included as a character.  )

[Akeme]

Im still wondering how this rob guy is so good, i can understand meta knight but rob

[KenshinX]

Whoa peach mid tier and meta knight is top tier how is that, remeber im not complaining just wondering how meta knight is top tier plus i thought peach was higher then that

Fight me and I'll show you

Quote FTW! You obviously havent played a good MetaKnight player Akeme, Meta's the combo master!

Well i only played online once

Lol, don't really agree with that list, but whatever.. I don't care about tier systems at all. The way I see it, its just melee players that got Brawl, played as a couple of chars, noticed they lost some things from melee to brawl and automatically thought that they were sh*t.

Exactly

Yeah, tier's only define how the characters abilitys are, not the players, like a good low tier character in the right hands will do massive damge to a high tier, it all depends who's behind the weel, !

Exactly

I'm thinking tiers are based on how well they do in tourneys so if a good Bowser showed up and won hi might be high tier, so don't read into this too much because not all great players play tourneys  

[The Notic]

Whoa peach mid tier and meta knight is top tier how is that, remeber im not complaining just wondering how meta knight is top tier plus i thought peach was higher then that

Fight me and I'll show you

Quote FTW! You obviously havent played a good MetaKnight player Akeme, Meta's the combo master!

Well i only played online once

Lol, don't really agree with that list, but whatever.. I don't care about tier systems at all. The way I see it, its just melee players that got Brawl, played as a couple of chars, noticed they lost some things from melee to brawl and automatically thought that they were sh*t.

Exactly

Yeah, tier's only define how the characters abilitys are, not the players, like a good low tier character in the right hands will do massive damge to a high tier, it all depends who's behind the weel, !

Exactly

I'm thinking tiers are based on how well they do in tourneys so if a good Bowser showed up and won hi might be high tier, so don't read into this too much because not all great players play tourneys  

QFTW(AGAIN)! That's exactly what they are! ! 

[Akeme]

Ok but im still wondering

[That Mugen Guy]

Excuse me ppl but can someone explain how wolf can be cheap

  People don't like him for his blaster and forward smash. If you ask me, Falco's blaster is way worse. I loled when I found out that Fox's blaster has a shorter range than Falco's. I mean wtf...

yea I was feeling the same way I was like wtf, fox blaster can't even stun but stops but falco's blaster stuns u but nearly flies across the whole stage 

[The Notic]

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[Codyman155]

Lol!
ummm...........anybody here wanna challenge me?

[BigJ]

Haha, Codyman, I think I finally figured out APAWGIZE. Is it fro the anime, Beck? I remember my friend showing me a clip with some really bad engrish, which is where I think it came from .