The Age Old Question

[MuηkyMØÜf]

I just wanna see what you all think....

VS.
&
VS.

[[Asian-Jesus]]

I believe the first and last pictures are from the same theory.

And I believe that we evolved from monkeys. What do you think?

[MuηkyMØÜf]

Ive heard SO many theories Im pretty done with it really. I dont care, Im alive and so are my loved ones...Nuff Said.

I believe the first and last pictures are from the same theory.

From what Ive seen & heard they arent supposively. The Big Bang was the beginning of the planets, galaxies, etc., and evolution started from microorganisms. I woulda used a pic of how the evolution goes from amoeba-fish & ape-neanderthal but I cant find any images. I only found comical pics and dinosaur evolution.

How they are seperate I dont dont know but they have been argued many of times seperatley.

[[Asian-Jesus]]

Ive heard SO many theories Im pretty done with it really. I dont care, Im alive and so are my loved ones...Nuff Said.

I believe the first and last pictures are from the same theory.

From what Ive seen & heard they arent supposively. The Big Bang was the beginning of the planets, galaxies, etc., and evolution started from microorganisms. I woulda used a pic of how the evolution goes from amoeba-fish & ape-neanderthal but I cant find any images. I only found comical pics and dinosaur evolution.

How they are seperate I dont dont know but they have been argued many of times seperatley.

haha, I hear ya on that. Here's to hoping this doesn't devolve into a flame war if more post here, eh? 

[MuηkyMØÜf]

Here's to hoping this doesn't devolve into a flame war if more post here, eh? 

Its always a heated discussion no matter where/who you ask, hence the title. Here's to hoping

[Gabbard]

The Bible and the evolution theory are the same thing guys, there aren't contraddictions....

The bible says "in the first day...etc.."
The evolution says after 1000 years...

Example :
One bible day = 1000 years

When our lord created the world, the life and the animals he/she created also the evolution process...
so when in the bible is written that our lord created the man in reality that's happens after a long process that the same lord started.
OK?

Is not so smart (in general, not in this case) try to make Bible vs evolution theory. Are the same thing.

The Lord don't plays.

[AceWonder20]

I dont care where we came from.  I wanna know where we are going...

[Gabbard]

I dont care where we came from.  I wanna know where we are going...

I'm going to lunch.....
after I'll see...

[MuηkyMØÜf]

Is not so smart (in general, not in this case) try to make Bible vs evolution theory. Are the same thing.

  WHAT!? Thats new to me. I've NEVER heard of them being one in the same and I have sat in on many of forums, not net forums-the ones you physically go to, with college students, reverends, pastors, scientist, professors, nuns, and other various religions. I've never even seen/heard anyone/thing hint towards those theories being the same. /:)

I dont care where we came from.  I wanna know where we are going...

Well, thats gonn depend on what you believe and being that you dont care could be anywhere

[Gabbard]

Maybe because is too simple try to find the differences than the same points...
The Bible is historical and allegoric also...
Don't try to learn it litterally....there are a lot of symbolics and semiotics interpretations...
In the Bible is written the evolution process.
The people speaks without read before.

[MuηkyMØÜf]

 
Well, I gotta new topic to bring up for the next forum. And its gonna be so GREAT too!
 

[Gabbard]

I meant the people (teachers etc...)....not you that started this topic...
 

I'm open...and I don't think to know everything in the right way....
I wrote things learned and studied at the university (a lot of big books....trust me) and in some groups also...

But I'm not here to say "That's the right way, and you're all wrong..."

Maybe I was too strong........

 

[MuηkyMØÜf]

Gabbard, I hear you. It is easy to see the differences and not the similarities first. But thats the way men have always been judging & contradictory at the same time....then apologetic

Like I said it will be an interesting debate, depending on who attends.

[Gabbard]

then apologetic

 

[thefisherkings]

The Bible and the evolution theory are the same thing guys, there aren't contraddictions....

The bible says "in the first day...etc.."
The evolution says after 1000 years...

Example :
One bible day = 1000 years

When our lord created the world, the life and the animals he/she created also the evolution process...
so when in the bible is written that our lord created the man in reality that's happens after a long process that the same lord started.
OK?

Is not so smart (in general, not in this case) try to make Bible vs evolution theory. Are the same thing.

The Lord don't plays.

I'm sorry but as a minister of the faith I must correct this statement.   They do differ.  Evolution is a process of millions of years not thousands.  The bible says that God shape man with his hands and brieve life into him.  Everything else he spoke into being.  Man and monkeys was created on the six day.  Its would be in the same 1000 year period.  Also, complete evolution would say that started as fish and then became land animals, while God created fish then birds then land animals then humans.  While their may be some from of adaptation in the bible, it is not the evolution theory in any sense

[MuηkyMØÜf]

 

[Spidermew]

I'm sorry but as a minister of the faith I must correct this statement.   They do differ.  Evolution is a process of millions of years not thousands.  The bible says that God shape man with his hands and brieve life into him.  Everything else he spoke into being.  Man and monkeys was created on the six day.  Its would be in the same 1000 year period.  Also, complete evolution would say that started as fish and then became land animals, while God created fish then birds then land animals then humans.  While their may be some from of adaptation in the bible, it is not the evolution theory in any sense

Quoted for truth.
There are lots of holes in the Theory of Evolution, half of the time they base their new stage of man's evolution on one bone. ONE BONE. And sometimes it turns out later that it was from a pig or a normal man with some sort of degenertive bone disorder like Osteoperosis (like i have) or something worse. Ususaly when this is found out they do post a tiny retraction in some paper, but it is never noticed and is still preached as true.
I use the word preached because i feal that Evolutionary Theroy is like a religion. There is no hard scientific proof and people are so adamant about how its right, they discrimanate aginst other people who dont beleve in it. It sometimes comes off as a very hateful religious group, those that beleve in evolution.
If it were proven fact, then scientists wouldnt call it a Theory.

[Ryu # 20]

Not to start any s*** but as an atheist I believe in Big Bang's theory and Darwin's evolution theory. They're not the same thing. I don't know who developed the Big Bang's one, but it sure wasn't Darwin.

[Gabbard]

The Bible and the evolution theory are the same thing guys, there aren't contraddictions....

The bible says "in the first day...etc.."
The evolution says after 1000 years...

Example :
One bible day = 1000 years

When our lord created the world, the life and the animals he/she created also the evolution process...
so when in the bible is written that our lord created the man in reality that's happens after a long process that the same lord started.
OK?

Is not so smart (in general, not in this case) try to make Bible vs evolution theory. Are the same thing.

The Lord don't plays.

I'm sorry but as a minister of the faith I must correct this statement.   They do differ.  Evolution is a process of millions of years not thousands.  The bible says that God shape man with his hands and brieve life into him.  Everything else he spoke into being.  Man and monkeys was created on the six day.  Its would be in the same 1000 year period.  Also, complete evolution would say that started as fish and then became land animals, while God created fish then birds then land animals then humans.  While their may be some from of adaptation in the bible, it is not the evolution theory in any sense

...was only an example, million years or 10 months are the same.....
when you say "man and monkeys was created on the six day" doens't mean at the same moment....
because one day for our lord could be millions (or 1000) years for us...and in millions years happen a lot of things related with evolution....
the Bilble is totally symbolic and allegoric...is an universal way to understand everything....the evolution also....
the same presence of the snake in the heden means the moment of the selfunderstanding for the humankind....

[Gold_TSG]

I believe what I wanna believe.

[MuηkyMØÜf]

I believe what I wanna believe.

 

[thefisherkings]

The Bible and the evolution theory are the same thing guys, there aren't contraddictions....

The bible says "in the first day...etc.."
The evolution says after 1000 years...

Example :
One bible day = 1000 years

When our lord created the world, the life and the animals he/she created also the evolution process...
so when in the bible is written that our lord created the man in reality that's happens after a long process that the same lord started.
OK?

Is not so smart (in general, not in this case) try to make Bible vs evolution theory. Are the same thing.

The Lord don't plays.

I'm sorry but as a minister of the faith I must correct this statement.   They do differ.  Evolution is a process of millions of years not thousands.  The bible says that God shape man with his hands and brieve life into him.  Everything else he spoke into being.  Man and monkeys was created on the six day.  Its would be in the same 1000 year period.  Also, complete evolution would say that started as fish and then became land animals, while God created fish then birds then land animals then humans.  While their may be some from of adaptation in the bible, it is not the evolution theory in any sense

...was only an example, million years or 10 months are the same.....
when you say "man and monkeys was created on the six day" doens't mean at the same moment....
because one day for our lord could be millions (or 1000) years for us...and in millions years happen a lot of things related with evolution....
the Bilble is totally symbolic and allegoric...is an universal way to understand everything....the evolution also....
the same presence of the snake in the heden means the moment of the selfunderstanding for the humankind....

  , I'm sorry I find you commical

While the bible has sybolism in it, totally is not the word.  Symbolism in the old testament is almost always when prophets speak.  The bible says God made man with his hands you skip that in your rebuttal.  I said they where made on the same day not at the same time.  We just can't use single passages out of the bible to fit our purposes, it doesn't work that way.

[MuηkyMØÜf]

  Wow, I showed this thread to some of my forum members & guest yesterday and it was kinda overlooked. No one really had much to say. I think they were just thrown off by the whole idea of MUGEN & why woud I ask on this kinda forum. Which wasnt why I showed it to them but oh well...

, I'm sorry I find you commical

While the bible has sybolism in it, totally is not the word.  Symbolism in the old testament is almost always when prophets speak.  The bible says God made man with his hands you skip that in your rebuttal.  I said they where made on the same day not at the same time.  We just can't use single passages out of the bible to fit our purposes, it doesn't work that way.

[Gabbard]

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  , I'm sorry I find you commical

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me too (find myself commical, of course)

[video_game_queen2002]

I'm sorry but as a minister of the faith I must correct this statement.   They do differ.  Evolution is a process of millions of years not thousands.  The bible says that God shape man with his hands and brieve life into him.  Everything else he spoke into being.  Man and monkeys was created on the six day.  Its would be in the same 1000 year period.  Also, complete evolution would say that started as fish and then became land animals, while God created fish then birds then land animals then humans.  While their may be some from of adaptation in the bible, it is not the evolution theory in any sense

Quoted for truth.
There are lots of holes in the Theory of Evolution, half of the time they base their new stage of man's evolution on one bone. ONE BONE. And sometimes it turns out later that it was from a pig or a normal man with some sort of degenertive bone disorder like Osteoperosis (like i have) or something worse. Ususaly when this is found out they do post a tiny retraction in some paper, but it is never noticed and is still preached as true.
I use the word preached because i feal that Evolutionary Theroy is like a religion. There is no hard scientific proof and people are so adamant about how its right, they discrimanate aginst other people who dont beleve in it. It sometimes comes off as a very hateful religious group, those that beleve in evolution.
If it were proven fact, then scientists wouldnt call it a Theory.

I don't understand it myself, I mean you can watch all types of nature shows on television and they're always saying stuff like, "During the process of evolution... blah blah blah." Evolution has not been proven fact and yet many treat it as such... 
Also, I've heard that Darwin became a Christian just before he died and totally denounced his evolution theory as merely a way to choose something other than God.
As a Christian, I believe in Creation.