can you believe this?

[verz36]

so mr zox aka cyber aka vampire killer started talking crap because I exposed him and he still denies that he took electros legs to make a walk for his punisher wip. judge for yourself


 not just that but he had this to say

(He's just still mad at me because i refused to work with his team. They are jellaus because i released a better creation than his whole team.
Shading of legs are complettely different. Because i maded them from scratch i have even rough draws on my pc saved. He's just jellaus when someone is better spriter than him. You don't need to hate someone when hes better than you and Loganir...  there will be always one better than you both

And worst part is hes 40 years old and crying around like a bee-otch... god that sux )

can somebody just post the sprites at multiverse without insulting or anything just to show there what he is denying. how can you scratch a whole walk and frame by frame its the same as some other walk? all he did here was that resized bits and change the shading a little...

 I posted this here because I know people go around the different forums and this way they can see the truth.
I never asked this guy to work with me, when he first came out he got banned with the name cyber for taking others works. the worst thing is that he denies that he took those legs from electro, sad guy for sure... what is mugen turning into.....

[Acey]

That's obviously an exact match, who ever it was they took the exact same legs, removed the colors and just recolored them. Top it off with the same body on each sprite and you have easy animation theft 101.

[Beto]

I think loganir made the right decision when he decided to leave the Mugen. He knew it would who this never end.

I also made an original character. I made each pixel without any basis. I'm done, but I decided not to share. Not because it is the best version that exists, it's because he's mine. If I shared, but people would not share my conviction. 

I have other projects I will share soon, but some will never share.

[HyperVoiceActing]

Actually looking at the sprites side by side, Punisher's feet are actually a bit smaller than Electro's.

Of course that doesn't excuse Zox's attitude regarding the whole thing. Even if he didn't steal your legs, he has no need to be that harsh

[dev.]

Lol Funny how he tried to change the shading, the muscle lines or feet. He must be fooling his mmv rookies, but not the old mugen sharks from here . It's a pity 'cause the guy is really talented, but he's mmv. What do you expect?

[TGM]

LMAO  this is hilarious

[verz36]

@ hypersonic, those are electros feet. he just changed bits to hide it. look really good and tell me how can he scratch a whole animation and its the same things like electros. look at all the positions. he try to hide by erasing and making things smaller and changing the shading a bit.. any experienced spriter can tell right away. and then what he said its just so funny that I think this guy is on drugs... he believes his own lies. he has tried to take peoples sprites before.. I agree he got talent but is lazy and just want to cut corners..

[HyperVoiceActing]

Yeah I just saw that.

I don't know why people in this community despise courtesy nowadays

[Z999]

They are jellaus because i released a better creation than his whole team. He's just jellaus when someone is better spriter than him. You don't need to hate someone when hes better than you and Loganir...

Nice modesty... 

The legs are indeed quite obvious ; the torso skull and a part of the belt are also strangely similar to primeop edit, down to the pixel.
But, hey, probably just a coincidence too ^^

[dev.]

If I'm not mistaken, even the head is not his.

[Superjoker]

@Verz I know how you feel man, they are currently doing a BLADE wip with one of my old hand drawn heads I made years ago!
I strongly advise you do not get a member here to go and post these pics there, that would be playing their game, childish and immature.

Verz I'm gonna give you a tip you can keep in your life for ever and hopefully it will make you finally get over the fact that in this MUGEN game this will always happen, pls read it carefully:

TO THE INFINITY COMMUNITY:

Let's stop giving these guys anything at all - mentions, thought in our heads, posts in our forum - and let's be real MUGENeers and keep honoring the creating rules our MUGEN fore fathers laid down, the quality of the work here speaks for itself guys!

I know it can crush your creating spirit, make you wanna quit and halt your WIPs... but as a community we need to support eachother!

They will always be the gang that purposely bent the rules to suit their needs, purposely disrespect everything the game was built on, unfortunately in this world there is more SCUM than anything else. 

INFINITY= Quality, respect, prosperity
MMV= Betrayal, theft, cowardice

(Here come the Volzilla aka Adminbot pm's  )

[Z999]

If I'm not mistaken, even the head is not his.

Correct Dev, this part is slightly edited from NicotineFist Punisher sprite 

[Chimoru]

Hmmm...if he's doing so much from "scratch", then why does the top half of the Punisher not move?

[Z999]

Short version, because.



(NicotineFist, Zox, PrimeOp,
Zox, Steamboy, Verz)

[dev.]

Lmao. How is he thinking to do a whole character like this?

[Beto]

@Verz I know how you feel man, they are currently doing a BLADE wip with one of my old hand drawn heads I made years ago!
I strongly advise you do not get a member here to go and post these pics there, that would be playing their game, childish and immature.

Verz I'm gonna give you a tip you can keep in your life for ever and hopefully it will make you finally get over the fact that in this MUGEN game this will always happen, pls read it carefully:

TO THE INFINITY COMMUNITY:

Let's stop giving these guys anything at all - mentions, thought in our heads, posts in our forum - and let's be real MUGENeers and keep honoring the creating rules our MUGEN fore fathers laid down, the quality of the work here speaks for itself guys!

I know it can crush your creating spirit, make you wanna quit and halt your WIPs... but as a community we need to support eachother!

They will always be the gang that purposely bent the rules to suit their needs, purposely disrespect everything the game was built on, unfortunately in this world there is more SCUM than anything else. 

INFINITY= Quality, respect, prosperity
MMV= Betrayal, theft, cowardice

(Here come the Volzilla aka Adminbot pm's  )

I saw that, I actually thought that you had given your wip, to Arkady end, I am disappointed with the fate of his work

[Acey]

Super Joker has it right,

There will always be liars, cheats, disrespectful people out there but we're better than them. We can draw better, program better, quality test better, create better. All we need to do is support each other and always give respect where respect is due.

I create for myself but I share for the community.

[Superjoker]

Thanks Acey.

And for the record...

I just wanna make it clear I meant no disrespect to:

Arkady, RobWanKenobi, Predator, Bam77, Nicotinefist, BigPimp, Chimoru & Dark Rider

All of who I respect and look up to and did not mean to offend. They are a league of their own.
(even Volzilla, I was here when he started we were good friends, he was Blade's biggest believer and TBH I miss that mate)

MMV, Team Spoiler, CC, The Unlimited and Scruffydragons... (the core teams) all nothing but a bunch of PASSIONATE ARTISTS!

Peace

[dev.]

Still sad tho. All of that is gone. I started mugen in 2008. God I miss that times. I know there were problems back then too, but there was also harmony. A lot of people were involved in projects, decent artist, so much excitement back then.

[bambulin]

Well I did not expect this, consider zox has enough talent to make your own sprites are not caught because verz sprites . Sorry about this .

[Jmaxximus]

Well unfortunately we live in the age of the internet. Sharing with a community now just means you can do whatever you want with whatever you find. People will now always consider whatever is on the internet is is up for grabs. The biggest problem is now no one wants to share as much anymore. They feel they will be wronged (and they will) when they post something.

Only thing I can say is to continue exposing them. Don't let them hinder your artistic talent. I love looking at others art work. Gives me a lot of inspiration continue doing mine.

[rhiggatwat]

There are some differences...is it possible you just used the same base? That walk looks very familiar, from MvC2...Not saying anything definitively, but things are bound to have similarities when everyone is using the same few Capcom sprites as bases. You are both very talented, who's to say you both couldn't have edited the same sprites?

Actually, looking at it again, it looks like Zox used Psylocke's walk, and didn't edit her feet, because those look like Psylocke's feet. Am I wrong?

It's also not as detailed as your Electro's legs. The knee area on Punisher looks more like Psylocke's than yours.
 Look:

With his Spider Woman, you can clearly see how he edited Rogue and others into Spider Woman.

I just think that we should look at the actual evidence before we go crazy attacking someone. Everyone is so quick to join the angry mob. It does look like he was looking at your legs while he was editing, I'm just not sure he actually used your legs. Certain aspects of them look more like Psylocke.

[Beto]

The most correct, is learning to deal with it, there is no way to control the sprites you play on the internet, many people try to make money with Mugen content.

So this kind of debate is killing all Mugen forums, let's just have fun and let go a little so that environment is not torn toxic and people go away 

[WizzyWhipitWonderful]

so mr zox aka cyber aka vampire killer started talking crap because I exposed him and he still denies that he took electros legs to make a walk for his punisher wip. judge for yourself


 not just that but he had this to say

(He's just still mad at me because i refused to work with his team. They are jellaus because i released a better creation than his whole team.
Shading of legs are complettely different. Because i maded them from scratch i have even rough draws on my pc saved. He's just jellaus when someone is better spriter than him. You don't need to hate someone when hes better than you and Loganir...  there will be always one better than you both

And worst part is hes 40 years old and crying around like a bee-otch... god that sux )

can somebody just post the sprites at multiverse without insulting or anything just to show there what he is denying. how can you scratch a whole walk and frame by frame its the same as some other walk? all he did here was that resized bits and change the shading a little...

 I posted this here because I know people go around the different forums and this way they can see the truth.
I never asked this guy to work with me, when he first came out he got banned with the name cyber for taking others works. the worst thing is that he denies that he took those legs from electro, sad guy for sure... what is mugen turning into.....

Verz, let me say this:

Your works are an inspiration to many people. It's clean, precise, and just awesome overall. You know the work you've done with Loganir and your contributions speak for themselves. It should honor you that someone uses your work as standard/blueprint.

With all praise aside, don't let this trouble you too much...just continue your hard work because one thing that's for sure, people will spot your work within others works. Look at it this way; the more of your work he uses, the more credit you can give yourself in assisting him to create The Punisher.

[Z999]

There are some differences...is it possible you just used the same base? That walk looks very familiar, from MvC2...Not saying anything definitively, but things are bound to have similarities when everyone is using the same few Capcom sprites as bases. You are both very talented, who's to say you both couldn't have edited the same sprites?

I just think that we should look at the actual evidence before we go crazy attacking someone.

You do realize that the picture i posted clearly shows that punisher walk is just a mix from 4 differents sprites made by other people ? The simple fact that the arms are the same than Steamboy's chris (which was sprited from scratch) kinda kills the "oups random similarity" argument.
And psylock doesn't have a male anatomy, she has differently shaped tights, smaller feets and so on. Try coping pasting the same frame of the walk over psylocke & electro, you'll see it's much closer from electro than from psylocke in anatomy. It looks like pyslocke because electro walk is modeled base on psylocke walk.

But whatever, my only point was that it was dumb of him to claim "i'm such a better spriter anyway x3, i can handraw and all" when the sprites are 85% copy/pasting, it's kinda really disrespectful.