Blademan (WIP)

[O Ilusionista]

I will use this topic to discuss about Blade, a possible wip.

The original edit were made by DanOwnsALL122 and GatlingPunchRalf


Since he is more original (he doesn't use the same body), it got my attention.
I've made some tests with Blademan. Take a look (needs cleaning):


Those are tests (ignore the lack of outlines) about the standing.
Which one is better? A (left, more fighter) or B (right, more Fencing)


With more frames:


My idea is to make him a fencing character, very quick, with references of some characters like Charlotte and others.

I think this could add something different to RMM I will need some help with some sprites (like new position of torso or head). Do anyone wants to help with that?

[Magma MK-II]

Since you Made two stances, he could work as a stance fighter, having more aggressive moves in The first stance and more pokes and mobility in The second one.

[O Ilusionista]

I have some ideas:
- Use one stand, then after some time change for another
- Use both stands, randomly
- Change the stand based on the life

Magma, do you want to help me with some torso and head positions? Like you did for Burstman?

[Magma MK-II]

I can try something once I get home.

[cheddarsworld]

well, he wasn't a fencer in MM10, and his style seemed like a power slash type... but for the life of me and I know this is crazy, I can't help but see him fighting like voldo from soul caliber!

don't discard one stance completely though. you never know, you may want to use it in an attack. for instance, I could see the stance on the right having him bring the higher blade down pretty hard, and from his standard MM10 stance, well, if you think about the movements a human would have to make to perform any kind of attack, the fastest I could see would either be a single forward poke, 1, 2 poke, or double stab. he'd have to have a back swing before making any kind of long or hard slash.

do whatever makes you happy with the character though. if you try to stick to something you like less, the character may suffer for it in the long run. I wouldn't get rid of everything that makes him who he is, but he'll be all the better if you follow what you think should happen.

also, this may help: I said "if you think about the movements a HUMAN would have to make". he's not a human. spinning blades. or at least, turning blades. like a hand on a wrist, or a drill. picture it: huge downward slash with one arm, then the blade turns, and huge upward slash with same arm. or even this: blades turn to face each other, then come together like a bear trap. or even scissor cuts.

i'm throwing it out there now: possible intro: cut man on scene, then like akuma to bison, blademan comes from above and shows him what "cutting" is all about. round one: FIGHT!

whatever. I REALLY need to stop this.

[ExeLord]

Looks very cool
Don't have firm memories of him, still for me he reminds more of Strider Hiryu or (AvX) Gambit with what I remember of him, maybe Samurai Showdown's Jubei. I mean slashing, wall grabbing, blade throwing. His blades are not of fencing type, but some poking won't hurt, especially for weak/medium attacks, stabbing and tossing throw would be great. What I do expect from him on more unique side is using head blade to max - aerial and ground headbutts, some spinning slicing, downward, upward, diagonal thrusts...
Well, I'm sure you'll make him both unique and cool 

[O Ilusionista]

What I do expect from him on more unique side is using head blade to max

Hum, nice idea!

his blades are not of fencing type, but some poking won't hurt especially for weak/medium attacks

Kinda what I did. There are some slash attacks too.

[ExeLord]

Heh, it looks pretty much like I was thinking, guess we were thinking alike
Last screenshot reminded me of Wolverine's cross slash for some reason... Could be used probably.

[O Ilusionista]

Thanks. I've finished the head attack (its the standing medium kick)


All the blade attacks has an quick fx over it (like Charlotte's attacks)

[ExeLord]

Cool, makes me wish to not being stuck with broken monitor and be able to do something more than giving ideas.
Though while I'm at that - are arm blades of  him being able too rotate or not? If they are, then there could be some throwing in the air move followed by headbanging. Say... We had rapid fencing on Charlotte, rapid kicking on Chun-Li, rapid punching on Fei-Long, maybe it's time for rapid headbanging anti-air? 

[Magma MK-II]

He could take some cues from Baraka.

[O Ilusionista]

Hehehe I thought in both ideas
I've watched some videos of him yesterday, I will try to mimic some of the original moves.

[Jmaxximus]

Good work on Blademan he's looking good.

Keep it up

[cheddarsworld]

you know, if you're looking for inspiration for moves, you could look at characters like zoro from One Piece, Cervantes from Soul Caliber, Liu Bei from Dynasty Warriors (actually, dynasty warriors 8 features multiple dual sword characters that all play differently!). actually, the Ninja Turtles wouldn't be a bad source of inspiration either. Leonardo uses dual katanas, which he uses for slashes and stabs, and Raphael uses dual sais, which aside from some spinning, are better used for stabs/pokes.

[SSOmega11]

Beautiful work. Even better than Sheepman, which was just a sprite swap of Laspacho's Elecman. (:

[Magma MK-II]

[laspacho]

Looks cool, your ideas are just pouring out.   

[cheddarsworld]

you know what, this is perfect. I seen in a magazine that blade man was actually drawn up by someone several years ago as a robot master idea for Capcom, who finaly decided to use it for mega man 10! how cool is it, that blade man has made it full circle back into the hands of the fans?

dude, you HAVE to finish the character now. as gwonam would say: it is written!

[O Ilusionista]

you don't need to rotate the head (or any other part) in vertical axis (like clockwise), I can do that.
What I need its pieces rotated in horizontal axis (like you did with the head).

[O Ilusionista]

I started to clean the sprites. Each sprite tooks like 2min to clean, but I think it worths at the end.

Those are the walk and backwalk animations, were I used the fencing stand animation as a base. In the backwalk, I tried to give it a more defensive stance, so his head is bent backward.



Crouched strong slash (still needs to be cleaned)


While I am not at the same level of Rage, Laspacho, Magma and others good spriters, I liked the results

[HyperVoiceActing]

I dunno, I think your animations look uber smooth and fluid

[laspacho]

I started to clean the sprites. Each sprite tooks like 2min to clean, but I think it worths at the end.

Blademan is coming along really nice, I like the results.  A lot of cool ideas here with how he attacks and how he attacks with his head.  The walk came out really nice too.  Blademan has a neat design since he's skinnier then any other robot masters. 
I was wondering how long it would take to clean up each sprite.  A few minutes each on each sprite isn't long at all.

While I am not at the same level of Rage, Laspacho, Magma and others good spriters, I liked the results

 

[O Ilusionista]

Thanks!

I was wondering how long it would take to clean up each sprite.  A few minutes each on each sprite isn't long at all.

Its a matter of remove few straw pixels and fix some lines.
But now I need to go back to other priorities

[O Ilusionista]

Hi there, this is a very quick preview of Blade Man

Many sprites still need to be cleaned.

[SSOmega11]

Very well done.