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« on: May 10, 2013, 06:02:18 PM »
I need to ask permission to use some old sprites in an old character, but You (Acey) can post a link to my character here without my permission? Ye hypocrite.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 12:11:31 AM by Infinite Power »



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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 08:06:10 PM »
Totally awesome work on Deadpool man. I love it!!  :)
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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 09:07:43 PM »
Do you have permission to edit Unlimited's character?

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 01:36:35 AM »
awesome  ^^(PM)^

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2013, 07:14:04 AM »
Do you have permission to edit Unlimited's character?
lol, Flamekyo even made an MvC3 inspired Deadpool using The Unlimited's base. Sure he's ask permission since Unlimited is now back in MUGEN. This Deadpool is a custom.  :)

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 11:12:02 AM »
I just don't want him to get in hot water with Unlimited

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 11:17:22 AM »
lol, Flamekyo even made an MvC3 inspired Deadpool using The Unlimited's base. Sure he's ask permission since Unlimited is now back in MUGEN. This Deadpool is a custom.  :)

Yeah you'd think so but no. At least the team was credited. I'll be interested in seeing what's new/changed so downloading now.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2013, 12:21:56 PM »
Did fine two weird things when I first tried him out:
*Taunt attack has a bigger hitbox than I think it needs.
*His launcher (crouch heavy punch) doesn't work

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2013, 03:59:43 PM »
Do you have permission to edit Unlimited's character?
I gave them credit for some of the sprites I have some sprites that FlameKyo did also, and some original by Dampir. But the character is not an EDIT, I coded everything, did his anims, clsn, did his sounds, and color separated him.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2013, 04:17:24 PM »
Alright, just wanting to make sure everything's all well and whatnot.

The coding is pretty good, and I loved the color separation

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2013, 04:20:15 PM »
I gave them credit for some of the sprites I have some sprites that FlameKyo did also, and some original by Dampir. But the character is not an EDIT, I coded everything, did his anims, clsn, did his sounds, and color separated him.
Some.? Can pretty much guarantee 95% of the sprites came from my team (not me in any way, before my time with them). I mean, every screen shot shown is using sprites that they made. Permission is needed in using the sprites (especially when it comes to editing them), doesn't matter if edit or completely recoded, it's their work. It was mostly AngelEcks baby and I'm not sure if he'd really mind or not. I won't assume to know what me might say but it is best to get permission before using their work like this is all. Though, I know giving credit is much appreciated.

I actually thought this was just a patch, at first. Screenshots do look nice and color separation is one of my guilty pleasures when it comes to characters.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2013, 04:28:02 PM »
I'm afraid times have changed.

It's pretty much perfectly acceptable to edit/use from anything as long as you give credit to the original author(s)

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2013, 04:29:32 PM »
Some.? Can pretty much guarantee 95% of the sprites came from my team (not me in any way, before my time with them). I mean, every screen shot shown is using sprites that they made. Permission is needed in using the sprites (especially when it comes to editing them), doesn't matter if edit or completely recoded, it's their work. It was mostly AngelEcks baby and I'm not sure if he'd really mind or not. I won't assume to know what me might say but it is best to get permission before using their work like this is all. Though, I know giving credit is much appreciated.

I actually thought this was just a patch, at first. Screenshots do look nice and color separation is one of my guilty pleasures when it comes to characters.
I Guess... I thought your team didn't exist anymore. This is the reason I don't mess with IMT like that anymore.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2013, 04:31:52 PM »
Batzarro, I think you should not complain and thank him for using your sprites instead. Because if he used its because he found them good, its like a tribute to your good work.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2013, 04:37:53 PM »
I'm afraid times have changed.

It's pretty much perfectly acceptable to edit/use from anything as long as you give credit to the original author(s)
Not here, it's not. Most comic/superhero Mugen sites still follow these rules especially. Just because some people choose not to follow rules doesn't mean it's acceptable, if anything it'll just mean less people will wanna work with them to avoid drama.

I Guess... I thought your team didn't exist anymore. This is the reason I don't mess with IMT like that anymore.
Team is still around, still working on a Batman project, after all. I can't personally say yay or nay on this matter as it's not my work but a teammates instead. Just pointing it out is all.

Batzarro, I think you should not complain and thank him for using your sprites instead. Because if he used its because he found them good, its like a tribute to your good work.
Not complain and thank him instead.? Funny guy. Try spriting a full character exactly how you want, spending probably hundreds of hours and get back to me. Not even my work here or complaining but you've really no idea what goes into spriting full characters, just saying.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2013, 04:47:56 PM »
Not here, it's not. Most comic/superhero Mugen sites still follow these rules especially. Just because some people choose not to follow rules doesn't mean it's acceptable, if anything it'll just mean less people will wanna work with them to avoid drama.
Team is still around, still working on a Batman project, after all. I can't personally say yay or nay on this matter as it's not my work but a teammates instead. Just pointing it out is all.
Not complain and thank him instead.? Funny guy. Try spriting a full character exactly how you want, spending probably hundreds of hours and get back to me. Not even my work here or complaining but you've really no idea what goes into spriting full characters, just saying.
If you guys don't want anybody using your sprites keep them private, don't put them on the internet, then complain when somebody uses them. I gave your team credit. If I wanted to be a bad person I could really edit ANY team (including IMT) and release it, what could you do about that? I haven't released anything here in over a year, and when I did they were all edits know permission (probably 50+), now that I ued something on your team (some sprites) you have a problem. It's cool though, I'll take him down from this trashy/dying site and make sure I'll never post anything here again. 

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2013, 04:50:06 PM »
I gave them credit for some of the sprites I have some sprites that FlameKyo did also, and some original by Dampir. But the character is not an EDIT, I coded everything, did his anims, clsn, did his sounds, and color separated him.
giving credit its good yeah but asking for permission its the right thing to do.. this kinda of things its what has driven some creators away from mugen. and yes the character its an edit.. just recoding and adding minor stuff dont make this a total new character.. i hope you change your ways and do whats right man..
I'm afraid times have changed.

It's pretty much perfectly acceptable to edit/use from anything as long as you give credit to the original author(s)
times dont change in the way you trying to say, just guys that lack the skills to create. just because a bunch of this same guys that are lazy to do their own, say that its ok to do this, it dont mean the person who did the works its ok with this.. we always hear the same lazy statements that oh, you used capcoms work so its not your work but why not do the same and edit your won using same base..
I Guess... I thought your team didn't exist anymore. This is the reason I don't mess with IMT like that anymore.
im sure you can find emails on the readme files and trying to contact to get permission would not cost you much.. i mean you could had try to look into contact somebody or ask around.. i hope you can think about this in the future.. its the right thing to do man.. and dont get me wrong, im not trying to tell you off by no means but just try to show you the right way to do things.. and this way everybody its happy and getting along..

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2013, 05:06:08 PM »
If you guys don't want anybody using your sprites keep them private, don't put them on the internet, then complain when somebody uses them. I gave your team credit. If I wanted to be a bad person I could really edit ANY team (including IMT) and release it, what could you do about that? I haven't released anything here in over a year, and when I did they were all edits know permission (probably 50+), now that I ued something on your team (some sprites) you have a problem. It's cool though, I'll take him down from this trashy/dying site and make sure I'll never post anything here again.
Complaining.? Where did I complain or tell you in any form to take your work down.? Really, it's like you read nothing I said. I wasn't attacking, I wasn't even saying you did a bad job or anything. I just point this out to you and you get defensive. Well, that's on you, man. Feel free to keep being negative and not posting here. I guess since it wasn't praise you took it bad, oh well.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2013, 03:11:06 PM »
1) Thank for trying to bring us a UMvC3 Deadpool, adding the UMvC3 attacks and sounds is good, but the properties of the attacks are nothing like in UMvC3 so it's kind of halfway anyways. Not like anyone is going to be able to do their BnBs here. I guess getting a few of the moves in there was part 1, maybe in the future part 2 can be to make them actually work. The smart palette is kind of fun. Obviously you weren't really going for a 6 button accurate depiction any ways since the throw is a 2 button attack, the launcher is broken, the run is very slow and you added a hyper bar charging move. Thanks for making the Katana Ramma animation, it's about time someone did.

2) Everyone made a good point, 95% of the sprites were done by someone else, so it would be nice if you tried to contact the original author and asked for their consent. Other people may not do that but just because other people piss on the sidewalk doesn't make it decent. We're just talking courtesy here more than permission. You know, a heads up, "hey guys, I'm working on this based on you stuff, thought you should know." I know from personal experience that the Unlimited are a really cool much of people.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2013, 06:47:24 PM »
Hold on, I thought that he said he didn't want to post the character over here anymore. Isn't that why he locked the thread and took the link down?.....

« Last Edit: May 13, 2013, 06:55:32 PM by ~R@CE AKIR@~ »

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2013, 07:48:51 PM »
times dont change in the way you trying to say, just guys that lack the skills to create. just because a bunch of this same guys that are lazy to do their own, say that its ok to do this, it dont mean the person who did the works its ok with this.. we always hear the same lazy statements that oh, you used capcoms work so its not your work but why not do the same and edit your won using same base..

On the contrary, they have. A lot of creators nowadays are very open about their work nowadays this includes their coding and their spriting(when applicable). This whole open source close source stuff is what bred the elitism from the old mugen days. I'm sure Infinite appreciates the work you've done on the sprites.

Infinite at least bothered to give credit where credit is due, which is a lot more that can be said of others who would dare to claim it as their own. And well....they're used on a decent Deadpool.

1) Thank for trying to bring us a UMvC3 Deadpool, adding the UMvC3 attacks and sounds is good, but the properties of the attacks are nothing like in UMvC3 so it's kind of halfway anyways. Not like anyone is going to be able to do their BnBs here. I guess getting a few of the moves in there was part 1, maybe in the future part 2 can be to make them actually work. The smart palette is kind of fun. Obviously you weren't really going for a 6 button accurate depiction any ways since the throw is a 2 button attack, the launcher is broken, the run is very slow and you added a hyper bar charging move. Thanks for making the Katana Ramma animation, it's about time someone did.

Except it's not meant to be UMvC3 styled.

Hold on, I thought that he said he didn't want to post the character over here anymore. Isn't that why he locked the thread and took the link down?.....

He did. Acey restored the link.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2013, 07:54:11 PM »
Except it's not meant to be UMvC3 styled.
Weird, he has a lot of UMvC3 'Pool's moves. Only thing I see different is the Weapon XI hyper and the "jump up and slam his sword down" hyper.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2013, 08:08:52 PM »
Having UMvC3 style is not necessarily to have its attacks. This Deadpool is a custom CvS version with attacks based in his UMvC3 incarnation.

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2013, 10:38:15 PM »
Weird, he has a lot of UMvC3 'Pool's moves. Only thing I see different is the Weapon XI hyper and the "jump up and slam his sword down" hyper.
yeah you see a lot of mvc3 moves but the gameplay is not based on that horrible broken game but instead cvs gameplay... amazin char isn't it?

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Re: Deadpool
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2013, 10:51:02 PM »
Well since I haven't played a CvS game it took me a while to get use to some of the inputs.

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