RIP CVG????

[YoungSamurai5]

yea im with lando on this one . you always speak the truth man. 

[mon-el]

hmmm not mgonna agree with anyone or even disagree. but just say a lil something cause i miss the peoples when it was CVG United.

The word "United : no matter what new site is made has to be a key factor in how its gonna function. everyone has to be united together with a goal to help each other. do away with all the old issues and just as well with whoever is in charge... leave out the politics. Its about having fun and having fun making things together. I am cool with of the cvg peoples and i for one am sad to see all this that happened at a time i was away for a minute.  really it was a minute. but seriously, the cvg family should have always been family to each other and leave out the egos, the biasness and if your gonna work together on projects, be cordial and understanding about things.

 No matter what the new sites be called wether The Gaming Panda, cvg united 2, MMV, Crusader , The Frick and Frack show...whatever.. it wont be standing if you guys arent united . My bros and good friends the fighting and issues really need to be done away with and start as a team of good friends and keep that passion for creating you guys all have..but most of all ..work together. of talent is there. No one is better in my eyes than anyone , just each have different skills with different levels of them  and can all be used to make a great products. very great. I really wanna see everyone on the teams get together and work hard and have fun together ...and bring back dang CHAT!!!!  i miss the fun and laughs and sneak peeks of stuff we all showed off.  I wish you guys the best of getting it straight but more importantly.. just do it and keep it working....together.. united my bros and friends. we are Mugen Fam. 

love all you guys....no homo.  

You said all the Right things man!   

Preach it brother!
 

[theFuTur3]

wow i see everyone is shook up about the whole CVG thing...i didnt know there was a problem when i left...except the bad blood between me n TOPS at the time...i admit it is sad to see the CVG name gone and of people i grew found of leave but hey thats life...i dont know what volz did in the past...all i know is he welcomed me as a friend to CVG and tried to get n TOPS cool again but that was  failed mission...sorry to say but i kinda knew MMV was gonna last long due to what it was created for and it was brought to the net...but to lose CVG is tradegic but its nothing to get bent over...

we are all here cuz we like comics and video games so lets just stick with what we know and make fun characters...

Alexziq i feel for u cuz u got the short end of the stick but hey u still got your works and projects and u post them when u want...whereever u want man...dont let that hard work go to waste is all im sayin...

[warecus]

we should all come together and help each other out to do what capcom refuses to do.

[Rage]

all good things come to an end. I'm with lando, all good words said so far. we just gotta pick up the pieces and move on. sure CVG had its ups and downs. but I gotta say the place really became quite nice. They  have my respect. CVG time past that's all that happened. you can't blame nobody. you can try and point fingers but it don't help. it was human nature for to come to an end. we as humans we always fight long as we exist they will be war. you have those at fight for selfish reasons like control and power. even those that are just negative just to be negative. but even those that seek peace war as well.  in order to get peace you have to fight for it. it's a yen and yang scenario. unless we continue to grow it will happen here too. as I complain about the new members here being negative. I was once that way. and I had someone trying to calm me down. now I'm in the other role. just the way things work. without that balance things collapse. and that's what happened to CVG. so in all all we can do is learn from our mistakes. and continue to grow.

[AxKeeper]

Well I see that everyone really wants to move on, it really must have been an ordeal to have to split, die, come back, wait, and change. After all that i guess I can understand why everyone just wants to move on from here. I guess I was one of the lucky ones to not have seen the carnage while I was on a mugen break

I suppose I should move on to. I do sorta have a few wips to get done 

 

Well I guess I am gonna get back to work then, no matter what everyone does, we will still create, forum or no forum and projects, it's our duty! 

[.ALEXZIQ.]

Well look as I told Zvitor in chat yesterday, I simply was moody and had my pizzypants on. So no one should take me personally.

Vol said at MMV that I had it in for him from day one. Thats very true. I didnt like the way he snuck around and PM'd everyone at IMT, SonicX, Scruffy, and everywhere else trying to recruit other teams talent. Plus DT was a close friend and DT had issues with Volz.

Now that said many of us joined anyway because we needed a change, and Spooky seemed to have a vision. But from the beginning we always had issues. He omitted things I said in his mugen interviews, then was making deals with a certain Mugen Nutjob we all know whom I wont mention by name. Which to me was a slap in the face since this guy hates everyone so why even deal with him, and give him attention? It's disrespect to your teamates.

Then he released stuff of mine at MFG without my consent not 1, but 3 times after I asked him not to after the 1st time. Doing that is not going to make you popular with me. Some of you dont get it I know but that can cause issues.

But what he never said was DESPITE that I never made it personal. I forgave, I did craploads of work to help make his events successful even when he wouldnt name  my B-Day events by the names I intended to give them. He always turned them into something else. MY B-day event mind you!

Did that keep me from delivering? Busting my hump, sacrificing time from my job, and family? I still did it for him.

And yes from day 1 I rode his @zz that Crisis needed a template? Who did it for him?

Me, with AA250, and BDC being equal on that. Plus O'illusionista

Yes I rode him that characters needed converted to that template, and there needed to be a screenpack. We wanted to make a game, not get as many characters made as possible.

So Trex was going to make Crisis for him, and AA250 and I had his back. We had a screenpack in mind, and Trexrell offered to do the brunt of character conversion with AA250, and I helping make sure they were done properly, and bug free. I was going to do a few myself.

All Trex wanted was to base it around existing forum characters, and limit the amount of borrowed characters, and use homegrown work. Volz would not budge on changing his game plot even on the smallest detail even though he was not going to do any of this work himself.

So basically he pizzed off the one guy who was going to make the project happen for him to the point where Trex looked at other options. I admit I was hurt that Trex, Yin, and Esn wanted to look outside of CVG, and we argued, and they left. People I believed in, and worked closely with. So they stepped down leaving me AA250, and BDC to drive the ship.

So yeah CVG left a bad taste in my mouth. And yes we dont want to associate ourselves with a name of a team that pretty much died beginning of the year.

I feel bad saying crap about Volz since it's over, and in reality he did things that he may not have been aware of the overall consequence, plus I dont like kicking someone when theyre down. Empathy is why I put up with things I didnt like for a long time. I guess I am still doing it.

In the end I didnt oust him, Spook did in a failed attempt to keep Trexrell, and Yin, because we were all close. It just ended up bad. We were in a situation where either Trex, or Volz was going to go.

Imagine if someone said heres a gun, now you have to shoot one of your brothers, you have no choice. Thats pretty much what we had to do. It turned out to be heaping helping of suck for everyone.

So sorry for the wikipedia history lesson, but I hope this explains a lil bit why we wanted a fresh start. I am feeling better about it. I am going to stick around try to help promote Trex's Role playing game, and now were looking for a new team name for a new beginning.

Help us pick a new Mugen team name, and join us if youre looking for a team, were hiring.

And if anyone from IMT wants to promote project at CC.com all old grudges are gone. We can arrange sections for other teams and forums to promote, and Cyanide I will see if we can get the lurking thing, and guest views taken out.

dont forget to help us pick a new name!

http://crusadercast.com/index.php?topic=12680.msg126310;topicseen#new

[volzzilla]

i've had enough of you trashing me behind my back again and twisting the truth. that kind of behavior why i left mugen. no bigger twist of the truth came from that arhimanes mugen guild thing, but you really came close.

the DT thing, completely leave out that the guy was spreading crazy rumors about me. all because he was bitter fredgerd decided to take up spooky's offer (yes, he was the one that made the official offer to come to cvg to work on his own spawn) than work with DT's ER edit of spawn)

that bit about the mugen interview. you make it sound like i left out a ton of info. what i left out was a derogatory comment about scruffy you made. and i was brand new in mugen at the time hearing how certain people at scruffy would ban for even the littlest slight. and for all i knew i would have been banned for repeating your insult. and i told you that at the time too, but you wanted to ignore how i could have gotten in trouble and kept that chip on the shoulder about me.

also left out pertinent info regarding posting your chars at other places. when me and spooky began cvg, he gave me a directive to get people to cvg.

there no better way to do that then post a release. i posted 1 char at the guild, joker. i liked the char, many people liked the char. but all that mattered to you was the few people that would bee-otch about it at the guild. you asked me to not post at the guild again, and i did not.

i also posted bane at infantry. again under the original directive. many people came to cvg, many people liked the char. but again, all that mattered was the few people that would complain about the char. you were butthurt apparently by those comments so much that you tried flat out tried a "lets get volzzilla kicked out of cvg" movement.

from that moment on, i could say the sky was blue and you'd argue that it was instead green. obviously being figurative there. but it is no lie that you'd constantly throw out the threat, "i just can't agree with him, maybe i should leave cvg"

so then i walked around on eggshells all the time thinking if you left cvg, everyone would blame me. i felt like i was carrying a live grenade for almost two yrs. one that finally went off when i was away from cvg when you made that threat again for the 12th time.

so your comment about it coming down to me or trex was a flat out lie. its on record, i saw it for myself where you said, "i had him kicked out or i was leaving". yea, spooky pulled the trigger, but at your insistence. and that came after i had already voluntarily decided to move into an absentee like role as i was just tired of it all.

also left out, trex had decided to leave before anyway. you would know that better than anyone, you planned to leave with him that new forum was built in mid february and you created an account in early march and did all kinds of legends project stuff for it.

another flat out lie, you never gave any suggested names for when you'd do your birthday thing. you just said i'm releasing so and so around this time. prove you suggested theme names. i want you to go to the admin section and look it up and repost. or are you just bitter that "preview week" and "end of summer blow out" weren't named, "alex's b-day celebration"?

you also act like every was great with me and trexrell up to when he made that comment to fundamentally change crisis project. he literally told me he had been harboring animosity at me ever since the iron patriot release (jan 2011). blamed me for it getting released and looking bad. while i'll admit it was not the greatest character at that time, all i was really guilty of was supporting a friend and teammate. anderson was adamant about wanting to release.

that same support the same i ever gave to anyone at cvg. i was a fierce proponent of anyone and everyone there. did i get it lame arguements over that belief? yes. was that behavior then twisted worse than it was? yes. but i'm not someone that backs down to bullies or doesnt defend friends.

and MMV wasn't supposed to be a big F U to cvg. it was what it was, people leaving to make a new attempt. and it maybe would not have happened had that split not been made worse. i was on the fence about beginning a new place. i told tops in private if staying at cvg is what is best for his project, then so be it. but me being forced out like i was tipped that scale. i didnt want to leave mugen like that. after that happened, i persuaded him and it wasn't hard given he had his own cvg trouble. until that happened, anything new was a 50/50 thing.

posting now, but editing to get the word out there sooner.

[.ALEXZIQ.]

i've had enough of you trashing me behind my back again and twisting the truth. that kind of behavior why i left mugen. no bigger twist of the truth came from that arhimanes mugen guild thing, but you really came close.

the DT thing, completely leave out that the guy was spreading crazy rumors about me. all because he was bitter fredgerd decided to take up spooky's offer (yes, he was the one that made the official offer to come to cvg to work on his own spawn) than work with DT's ER edit of spawn)

that bit about the mugen interview. you make it sound like i left out a ton of info. what i left out was a derogatory comment about scruffy you made. and i was brand new in mugen at the time hearing how certain people at scruffy would ban for even the littlest slight. and for all i knew i would have been banned for repeating your insult. and i told you that at the time too, but you wanted to ignore how i could have gotten in trouble and kept that chip on the shoulder about me.

posting now, but editing to get the word out there sooner.

It wasnt derogatory about Scruffy, I said I got into Mugen because they banned me but a least you admit you were kissing up to them by leaving out that fact

there no better way to do that then post a release. i posted 1 char at the guild, joker. i liked the char, many people liked the char. but all that mattered to you was the few people that would bee-otch about it at the guild. you asked me to not post at the guild again, and i did not.

No you flamed out there, and you did it again with Batman Beyond, and then with Bane at MI after I told you not to the 1st time each time getting into a huge drama with MFG. Plus it wasnt your character to release! Why dont you get that? thats 3x buddy, just like I said

Everything I said was the truth

so your comment about it coming down to me or trex was a flat out lie. its on record, i saw it for myself where you said, "i had him kicked out or i was leaving". yea, spooky pulled the trigger, but at your insistence. and that came after i had already voluntarily decided to move into an absentee like role as i was just tired of it all.

Your bold face lying. I never insisted Spooky to ban you. I offered to step down as an administrator, and Spook chose to demote you. You can make up all the stories you want in your own mind, but it doesn't make it true. I never once said you should be demoted. NEVER did I say  I had you kicked out. Just a flat out lie

i also posted bane at infantry. again under the original directive. many people came to cvg, many people liked the char. but again, all that mattered was the few people that would complain about the char. you were butthurt apparently by those comments so much that you tried flat out tried a "lets get volzzilla kicked out of cvg" movement.

Nope it wasnt that at all. You assume that, because you have no accountability. You do things people dont like, and dont understand why, instead of respecting people wishes

so then i walked around on eggshells all the time thinking if you left cvg, everyone would blame me. i felt like i was carrying a live grenade for almost two yrs. one that finally went off when i was away from cvg when you made that threat again for the 12th time.

This is true. I did threaten to leave over, and over. Because you wouldnt respect my wishes. I am the one creating, who are you to dictate anything?

also left out, trex had decided to leave before anyway. you would know that better than anyone, you planned to leave with him that new forum was built in mid february and you created an account in early march and did all kinds of legends project stuff for it.

I didnt plan to leave at all, why do you think I got banned from Atlas, because I found out they were pretty much leaving and got into a fight over it. I was told it was a place to get away from YOU!

another flat out lie, you never gave any suggested names for when you'd do your birthday thing. you just said i'm releasing so and so around this time. prove you suggested theme names. i want you to go to the admin section and look it up and repost. or are you just bitter that "preview week" and "end of summer blow out" weren't named, "alex's b-day celebration"?

Nope 2 times I wanted it to be my B-Day Hang over, and each time you just went a named it whatever you felt like. The 1st year you seemed to downplay my B-day all together in favor of some end of summer crap.

[.ALEXZIQ.]

You take no accountability for anything.

And I dont talk behind your back I tell this same story in public to everyone. You can ask just about anyone

[Acey]

Not here, not like this. Take it to PM.

[.ALEXZIQ.]

I understand Acey.

But I have nothing to say by PM.

You cats are free to lock if you wish


He is lying in these posts below V

He did post Batman, and Beyond at MFG. I had to diffuse the whole situation of you fighting with gill over it because YOU caouldnt handle them griping. I never got into fights with them it was always YOU.  And He also got into it with MI over bane, and we got into a huge fight about that. Jmaxx almost quit over it

Nope I never insulted scruffy. I simply told the story of how I told scruffy that people shouldnt be upset over over batman being discontinued, and that someone else may make one, and I was banned for it. Not once was there a direct insult. And you continued to suck up, and kiss up to magus offering to release Batgirl there for X-Mas without any mention of Legends. sticking it to me again as you always did

[volzzilla]

yea, you'd love for it to be locked after you got your last word in, huh

if you didnt want the truth getting out there, maybe you should not have been telling all these things to people in public behind my back. and its behind my back because i was gone.

and truth? you totally twisted a ton of the truth. anyone want the truth, read my original post above.

and who mentioned banning? i mentioned kicked off team cvg.

I never insisted Spooky to ban you. I offered to step down as an administrator, and Spook chose to demote you.

how else was he supposed to take anything? especially after you make that comment for the bazillionth time about you leaving at a time when i was offline for the bulk of 2months. and after i had made a post in admin about moving to an absentee role.

and wrong about batman beyond. i never posted that char on infantry or guild. go ahead and look up my topics at both plz.

also i told you to prove it about your wanting your birthday called certain things. look it up and post about it. but it already prove one thing. such a small thing and you want to get all bent out of shape about it all because you always wanted to fight against me at every step you could.

and finally, you are mistaking the mugen interview again. you had an insult of them. i left that out because i was new and didnt want to be blamed due to knowing there was a rep for a quick ban trigger there.

the batgirl scruffy thing was an attempt at trying to colab with them on a multi community event. was the DL link there? no. it was a topic to get people to see it there and come to cvg. but magus blew that up due to the connection to you. but it easier for you to blame me, like you did for everything you possibly could.

edit: ok, i did post beyond at infantry, i had forgotten about it due to it had zero drama. but you made it sound like it loaded full of people complaining about the char. and again, i was under spookys directive to get people to cvg. you dont like the directive, take it up with him. but again, its always been easier for you to make anything and everything about me worse..

[trexrell44]

CVG crew still together just in another form umm. ........

[Acey]

Alex, Vol, I know you both feel the need to defend yourself, and you think who ever talks louder will win, but honestly no one is as concerned about this as much as you two are, just drop it please. Both have been moderated.

[-Zox-]

Is Zox name free? Zox name is unbaned right?

tried to take name Zoks...
Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
This ban is not set to expire.

I give up, fu%#k this.

[.ALEXZIQ.]

Alex, Vol, I know you both feel the need to defend yourself, and you think who ever talks louder will win, but honestly no one is as concerned about this as much as you two are, just drop it please. Both have been moderated.

No offense taken Acey. I'd do the same thing in your shoes.

[C.R.O.M.-Mugen-Ninja]

You don't need to make an account named Zox... u could just have another user name! C:

[AxKeeper]

I personally feel it's good to get things out in the open, PMing leaves a lot of questions unanswered and only results in more problems.

But I guess Acey has a point to, we tend to never solve the problem at times and it just keeps on going. 

I am just glad I can still move on, I wish Alexziq and Volzilla the best of luck, I wish we could have all gotten along and continued to work together in harmony but anyway, it's time to move on. 

[esn23]

LMAO this topic is funny   But cvg is not dead its called crusador cast and its still going very strong all spooky did was update the site so it wasnt just a mugen site but a video game site.. So nothing changed but the name.  I dont know about mmv though i dont even have an account there

[C.R.O.M.-Mugen-Ninja]

Well MMV is still alive , and I heard that Snakebyte will take over it, then maybe it will be worth making an account there, as long as V will be gone

[Snakebyte]

o_O What.

*backs awaaaaaaaaaay from the dramasite, sprites in the corner  *

[C.R.O.M.-Mugen-Ninja]

xD Sorry, I must have been missunderstanding then

[.ALEXZIQ.]

Well I made a mistake in airing things out in public at a nuetral forum. That was my bad. I have these meltdowns now and again as most people that know me will tell you. Ill drop my derogatory posts if v agrees to do the same.

Humans are creatures of emotion and what one person feels passionate about may not be the way someone else looks at it. Nobody won anything in any of the drama over the past year. There were only losers. Kinda like baseballs central division in the american league.

[-Zox-]

Im not interested in this forum if volzilla is not there.