Avalanche by Arkady & Electro

[Rage]

Not tryin to be some jerk but...really? a last post wins topic on a release thread? Im just hoping its not to see who wins the damn argument (unless its over already). This is all too weird...

its just a joke to lighten the air.

Come on people feed back. Dont make me blow the dust off my mugen

[I-Skorp-I]

its just a joke to lighten the air.

Come on people feed back. Dont make me blow the dust off my mugen

Im bout to post some right now just opened mugen up again

[I-Skorp-I]

Iight its feedback time from ya boy Skorp

Iight 1st off i never knew avalanche had an Russian accent and another thing he DEFF needs A.I. cause he just basiclly stands there and lets the other A.I. beat him up barely blocks or anything so yea that's kind of an issue and other then that hes alright besides the obvious m.bison stuff that rage stated earlier

[HyperVoiceActing]

No AI? Weird cause my version has AI

[I-Skorp-I]

No AI? Weird cause my version has AI

No i mean it FEELS like he has no A.I. (sorry forgot to put that) cause when i watched him face carnage and electro and shadowcat he just basically walked around or stood there and did a few punchs the whole match so that's why it seemed to me that it felt like he barely had any A.I.

[HyperVoiceActing]

Really? He fought back when I tested his AI. And won a few matches

[I-Skorp-I]

Really? He fought back when I tested his AI. And won a few matches

Well we need to switch avalanches then naw jp but idk i guess i love my A.I.s to play like how carnage thor sandman wonder women and them play just constant fighting instead of just standin,walkin,jumpin around most of the match ya know? idk that's just me

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

Or we could just clear out all the posts involving this argument so we can post crits on the char's coding and whatnot

If it had been about the coding the same result would have happened. But okay this is the bugs I found in him:

- His launcher works but you he doesn't follow his opponent up if you press up after wards

- There is a changed to invalid state on these animations : 192, and 194

- There is a negative explod in state 1031

- He shakes a lil too much on his D,DF,F punch special move and you can keep on doing it over and over with little cool down time

- His stance is not aligned right

- His D,DB,B, punch special in the air does hardly any damage

- His D,DF,F kick special does hardly any damage as well for a special move

- His hard crouch kick should trip you but it doesn't

- His D,DB,B 2 kick hyper does too much damage for a level 1 move

- His D,DF,F 2 punch hyper does hardly any damage for just being a hyper move to begin with

- When he does his supposed hard punch in the air it looks like he's doing Bison's Devil Reverse and we all know Avalanche shouldn't be doing something like that at all. Might I suggest using the medium air punch over but making the frames in the animation slower or just sprite another one all together.

- When he does his hard punch or Fake Devil Reverse in the air, afterwards he just lands on the ground out of nowhere without any kind of thing putting him back in the landing state from the air to the ground.

- He needs some hitsparks put in him, because some moves already dont have default hitsparks running in them and it doesnt look that good to have it where he's getting hitsparks on some moves but not others so why not just give him hitsparks all together. And good ones too.

- of the hits on the special moves and hypers need better pausetimes.

- That Floating while going forward, or backwards is just so not Avalanche. I see what you were trying to do...but man....It doesn't look right...

- IF you can do air combos, which I havent been able to do any because after his launcher knocks you up I cant follow, Looking at the coding in the air normal attacks tell me that the velocities need to be tweaked. Try -1,-7 on the light and medium attacks and -15,15 or a lil less than -15 on the hard attacks

- The pause time on the air normal attacks need to be adjusted too. I suggest putting them all at 12 to air combo properly

Well that's all I will post for now.... 

[Arkady]

the best constructive feedback i've seen in this thread was just posted, thank you race for 9 pages of dribling, then this gold nugget to improve this character, see what being objective in feedback can be (just that one post redeems you in all the post prior in actual feedback in use to me)

p.s. the updates on him for launchers and such were updated about 3 days ago a soon as i found out, i fixed them but if there is still an issue please post i'll look into it again


ok voices well,he has three backrounds, comics he is from greece, cartoons(watxm & evolution he is from latin america, and older cartoon from the TAS series he is from deepvoicestonia
this is one of those characters where making him needs of research and then pooling into the best version, to give him different takes on him via pallets
the voice work will be updated, i went with those sounds coz it was a thick accent and was exactly the kind of comments he would say (going off watxm cartoons, and for those who don't know what i mean, please watch the second episode of wolverine and the x-men, you'll see the best take on avalanche in my opinion and my main influence)

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

the best constructive feedback i've seen in this thread was just posted, thank you race for 9 pages of dribling, then this gold nugget to improve this character, see what being objective in feedback can be

he has three backrounds, comics he is from greece, cartoons(watxm & evolution he is from latin america, and older cartoon from the TAS series he is from deepvoicestonia
this is one of those characters where making him needs of research and then pooling into the best version, to give him different takes on him via pallets
the vioce work will be updated, i went with those sounds coz it was a thick accent and was exactly the kind of comments he would say (going off watxm cartoons, and for those who don't know what i mean, please watch the second episode of wolverine and the x-men, you'll see the best take on avalanche in my opinion and my main influence)

p.s. the updates on him for launchers and such were updated about 3 days ago a soon as i found out, i fixed them but if there is still an issue please post i'll look into it again

........Dude I was gonna giv u my feedback on the coding but when I told you what i thought about those sprites in the beginning, you got offended, and people kept coming back with stuff to say to the point where I didnt giv a flip about giving u feedback on the coding anymore cus the sprites alone had me like.....No (You thought I was gonna say Shadowloo's leader name didnt ya? !)

I told you man, in the beginning I wasnt trying to bash you, its just what I thought. Dude I want you to complete the character, and I kno it has of potential.  And dont put all of the blame on me cus I cant help that other people wanted to come in and put their 2 cents in too....

But anyway, its over....Lets get to the MONEY!!!!! 

[Snakebyte]

Really Arkady?.... Dude....I gave you "REAL FEEDBACK" Its called telling you the freakin truth. But judging by what others have said to you here and also at CVG, dude you can't handle real feedback.....

I just want to say something here. I've been around for a while. I'm known by some people for giving good, sometimes brutal, feedback, and this has gotten me liked by some people and hated by others. I've locked heads with Acey once or twice, I've gotten banned like sixty-squintillion times by Magus for it, and, on the other side of things, Buyog's thanked me for it repeatedly and I've even got a mention in his latest character.

I know I'm nowhere near the most active person in the world or anything, but I hope that gives me some credit when I say that Arkady is the only person (fomerly) on CVG that I've found can 'handle real feedback'. Both on CVG and on Mugen Multiverse, he made a point of thanking me for it and asking me to take a look at things he releases before they go public.

So, hey, call it Bisolanche if you like, insult the spriting, say he released it too early, whatever.

The man can take feedback.

[HyperVoiceActing]

About the voice, if you want my opinion, you should do what we did with Kitty and try to find a voice actor. Maybe ShockDingo can help us

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

I just want to say something here. I've been around for a while. I'm known by some people for giving good, sometimes brutal, feedback, and this has gotten me liked by some people and hated by others. I've locked heads with Acey once or twice, I've gotten banned like sixty-squintillion times by Magus for it, and, on the other side of things, Buyog's thanked me for it repeatedly and I've even got a mention in his latest character.

I know I'm nowhere near the most active person in the world or anything, but I hope that gives me some credit when I say that Arkady is the only person (fomerly) on CVG that I've found can 'handle real feedback'. Both on CVG and on Mugen Multiverse, he made a point of thanking me for it and asking me to take a look at things he releases before they go public.

So, hey, call it Bisolanche if you like, insult the spriting, say he released it too early, whatever.

The man can take feedback.

.......Really Snakebyte?....Dude....Ok whatever i'm so done with this.... Its over, leave it alone. I've posted my coding feedback as well.... And let it end without people keep on coming back in with 2 cents on me....thank you 

[Arkady]

its not over till last post wins, remember?
 
where's my bisolanche commemritive collectors mug, im feeling ripped off

[Snakebyte]

.......Snakebyte....Dude....Ok whatever.... Its over, leave it alone. I've posted my coding feedback as well.... And let it end without people keep on coming back in with 2 cents on me....thank you 

Sorry man, there were like four new pages since the last time I checked. Consider it ended.

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

its not over till last post wins, remember?
 
where's my bisolanche commemritive collectors mug, im feeling ripped off

Oh you got jokes huh Arkady?...Well i'll tell you where they are.....The same place the future Avalanche sprites should be....IN AVALANCHE!   hahahahaha!!!! Now i'm joking ok so don't go calling the gang in to do a drive-by on me.....

[kosmos]

I don't really have much in the way of feedback cause I'm not a spriter or a coder so I can't even begin to see anything wrong but I do want to point out for Skorp that my version has a pretty good A.I. as well. He stomped my butt a few rounds until I got the hang of fighting him and blatantly saw him do his launcher and follow it up, so he is capable of doing that. Don't know if the point there was that it was missing or he didn't follow up on his own.

[Arkady]

yep a whole bag of jester right here r@ce.  are you showing your epenis again with spriting comments coz i havent much in the way of work from yourself? and coz im not up with slang, you know i kinda have to post here (since i created the thread topic and all) but you really dont need to reply, no one needs you state how much hating my work here has become your life, so other than the obvious "gansta talk" and "peace with bowl my homos" and "lets put some crap in his butt" any more feedback? no? then i would ask if you could kindly stop posting your opinions, on this thread as i already know, how much this character means that much to you, to just keep coming back for more insults thrown
 
 

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

yep a whole bag of jester right here r@ce.  are you showing your epenis again with spriting comments coz i havent much in the way of work from yourself? and coz im not up with slang, you know i kinda have to post here (since i created the thread topic and all) but you really dont need to reply, no one needs you state how much hating my work here has become your life, so other than the obvious "gansta talk" and "peace with bowl my homos" and "lets put some crap in his butt" any more feedback? no? then i would ask if you could kindly stop posting your opinions, on this thread as i already know, how much this character means that much to you, to just keep coming back for more insults thrown

Really?...Arkady? Dude....I was joking oh my God I wasn't trying to comeback and say anything man...OMG can't you take a joke?....

Dude listen....Its cool man, I wasn't trying to insult you....so chill... It's all good man....You were joking with me, so I joked back....its as simple as that

[Excursion]

 

My patience is wearing thin.

[Spidermew]

Or we could just clear out all the posts involving this argument so we can post crits on the char's coding and whatnot

Well if i do that again, for like the 5th time now trying to clear this crap, people whill hype about how i keep deleting crap and we'll get another few pages of text walls talking about the base and how Im a bad mod or whatever.

My patience had warn thin long ago.

Race, youve become the one thing you hate, a troll. And you do the same crap that all the trolls did to you, hype on the same point. Were others hyped about your patches your hypin about bases.
Im callin your bs dude.

Rage, i rub people the wrong way because im here all the time particaly, and im a stickler for the rules. You can die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villian.

And Arkady, you could have just ingored it, and after me cleaning up a few times it would have stoped. Remember dont feed the trolls.

[Jelux Da Casual]

Thread locked huh? Why am I not surprised... 

Observe everyone, this is why we can't have nice things.