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Shuma Gorath: Hyper Mystic Ray
« on: January 25, 2012, 01:50:58 AM »
G'day. Going to announce this here too. I am coding Shuma Gorath using MSHvSF as a basis for pretty much everything. I have taken additional animations from MSH. Shuma has a few extra frames in that for both basic attacks and in some of his standard movements. He has 16 frames in walk forward for example.

I've been using artmoney on kawaks to get the details for movement and stuff and have used FBA:RR to get the correct hitboxes. Currently done with basic stuff as well as his standard punch>kick combo system. I still need to do hittimes, slidetimes and velocities for the basics.

Have done some preliminary coding on Mystic stare as well but will come back to that when i'm done with basics.

As an addition i am going to include Hyper Mystic Smash and Hyper Mystic Ray as level 1 supers. I have been attempting to create a shout from the existing announcer. This needs some work

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http://www.mediafire.com/?yf6qj33w2ab60j3

That's close. I need to do some more fiddling with the inbetween bits but it's almost there. Can anyone suggest what i should be using to fix this up a little further? Mostly i do sound cut/paste/amplify. The whole making words blend function eludes me a little.



That's the only screeny for now. I could set up a video but who really wants to see a few basic attacks. Eye and bone/stone on the tentacles are seperated out.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 01:52:28 AM »
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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 02:05:52 AM »
YESSSS!!!

So he's gonna have mystic ray? Will it OTG?

Shuma's my main in every game he's in. I cannot wait for this.

I would love to help you in any way I can. You made two of my other favorite characters, omega red and black heart, so this will definitly be awsome.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 02:11:46 AM by S.H.U.M.A. - Whiplash »

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 02:15:49 AM »
I will probably make it behave similarly to Captain Commandos "Captain Sword" Getting the details from MvC is far more possible than anything sensible from MvC3.

I still need to create a shout for it. I have Hyper and Mystic already. I'm thinking of mixing Judgement Day and Midare Zakura to get the Ray bit.

If anyone has ANY talent at all with sound, please listen to the above clip and advise how i can make it mesh better. It sounds like the announcer, but the flow is wrong.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 02:40:26 AM »

If anyone has ANY talent at all with sound, please listen to the above clip and advise how i can make it mesh better. It sounds like the announcer, but the flow is wrong.
Try this: http://www.mediafire.com/?uk1k5epipr71kr9
Or sample MP3 here:
http://kiwi6.com/file/27669olt6l
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 02:47:50 AM by lantern48 »

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 07:53:26 AM »
Shuma-Gorath is my favorite characters !
My Main with Zero on MVC3 and with Megaman on MVC2 !

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 08:19:19 AM »
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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 11:05:22 AM »

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 11:07:22 AM »
I would suggest using the sound clips from Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3. It's the same sounds only much better sounding.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 04:06:13 PM by Acey »

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 11:13:28 AM »
YESSSS!!!

So he's gonna have mystic ray? Will it OTG?

Shuma's my main in every game he's in. I cannot wait for this.

I would love to help you in any way I can. You made two of my other favorite characters, omega red and black heart, so this will definitly be awsome.


 ^^(PM)^ Gangsta Luxury said you was going to love this. lol . the comment speaks for itself the happiness.  :thumbsup:


Cool Cyanide on the Shuma Gorath movement. i been learning him myself in Mvc3 for a lil bit. so this version your doing should prove to have the old school flavor of shuma gorath. yeah i vote as well with whiplash ...the OTG if can or want to. ::salute::

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 06:37:03 PM »
Try this: http://www.mediafire.com/?uk1k5epipr71kr9
Or sample MP3 here:
http://kiwi6.com/file/27669olt6l
Sorry no, that doesn't suit. You've got the word mystic inside the word hyper. Comes out somewhat hypemrystic Smash.

Basically i think i have the spacing slightly wrong, but i feel like there needs to be some method of smoothly transitioning the words if i bring them closer together. Adding an echo is not needed as these are direct rips from the announcer.

I am slightly a perfectionist when it comes to this sort of stuff. If i don't get precisely what i'm after it'll be dropped.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 07:00:00 PM »
Sorry no, that doesn't suit. You've got the word mystic inside the word hyper. Comes out somewhat hypemrystic Smash.

Basically i think i have the spacing slightly wrong, but i feel like there needs to be some method of smoothly transitioning the words if i bring them closer together. Adding an echo is not needed as these are direct rips from the announcer.

I am slightly a perfectionist when it comes to this sort of stuff. If i don't get precisely what i'm after it'll be dropped.
Your ear for sound may not be very good. The hyper mystic is exactly as you had it. Nothing was changed there. Also, the echo was already there, too. Not sure how you don't hear that in your original file.

I just closed the gap between mystic and smash. That's what was way off to me from your original file: Hyper...Mystic..................Smashhhhhhhhhh.

I made it: Hyper...Mystic..Smashhhhhhhhh.

If you have a problem with the hyper and mystic, then you'll actually have to space those out farther than the way you have it. That's just as easy to do as bringing the mystic and smash closer together - which again, is what I did.

If you're capable of articulating how you want it to sound, the rest is easy.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 07:41:37 PM by lantern48 »

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 10:11:57 PM »
I will upload something said officially by the announcer. I have combined 4 sound clips to get hyper mystic smash. I'll upload hyper charging star and we'll see if we can get the flow similar. There are the same number of syllables there.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 11:11:48 PM »
What Acey said, just use the UMvC3 ones, if you need help i will rip them for you.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 12:39:30 AM »
For the announcer? I didn't think the announcer said anything like that in UMvC3. He just says "Hyper Combo KO" which is pretty boring. If i want that i can pull it from MSHvSF ok.

I have the Shuma Gorath sounds from MvC3 already (thank you MGMurrow) but i really like the announcer in MSHvSF because he gets right into it.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2012, 12:58:54 AM »
sorry i thought you were looking for character voices.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2012, 01:23:15 AM »
I will upload something said officially by the announcer. I have combined 4 sound clips to get hyper mystic smash. I'll upload hyper charging star and we'll see if we can get the flow similar. There are the same number of syllables there.
That'll work.
As long as I can hear what it's supposed to flow like, I can arrange it that way.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2012, 01:48:08 AM »
http://www.mediafire.com/?kwic35ksu5kdiiq

Ok, there's hyper charging star. Echo is built in, it's just getting the spacing right. I'm pretty happy with how the word Mystic sounds, it's built out of the start and end of 2 words so that bit is OK, it's just getting it all to mesh together in a sensible manner.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2012, 03:35:15 AM »
I broke it into 3 elements: hyper, mystic, and smash, and then reconstructed it.
Everything is timed perfectly.

The problem is the beginning of mystic has the "er" from hyper blended into the m.
It sounds like ermystic. When I clean the "er" sound out, mystic loses the mmm and actually sounds like fistic instead of mystic. I don't think anyone wants a hyper fistic smash. lol

Get me a clean "mystic" source file.
And then we're good to go.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2012, 08:37:05 AM »
Hey, you could put both MSH and MVC3 sounds, and give us the option to change between them!

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 02:29:39 PM »
I'm really not worried at all about shuma goraths voice. This has been about the announcer from day one. Not Shuma himself.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2012, 12:39:21 AM »
Can i bump this to provide an update?

http://www.mediafire.com/?3j30ka142ey0ey8

that's the updated version of Hyper Mystic Smash and i've also managed to put together Hyper Mystic Ray, (although may need to do some sprite editing to actually implement that one)

This probably still needs more work, i'm not happy with the spacing.

Correct pausetimes done, correct air vels for air basics done (these are bloody weird) Also done hit and slidetimes for any ground stuff, i still need to get the vels which requires some math (which Excel shall take care of)

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2012, 12:11:18 AM »
Cyanide... I don't know how much do you plan to change on Shuma... but here's some old stuff of mine that perhaps could find a good use in your character or at least inspire something... They were done long ago when I intended to provide a new Shuma for a John Constantine wip of mine.

Eyelid looks... weird... yeah... I know... :)





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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2012, 01:17:49 AM »
Possibly none of that stuff, although the venom mouth attack looks pretty cool and is well done.

Is there any chance you could recreate mystic ray from MvC3? That i do have a use for.

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Re: Shuma Gorath
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2012, 04:22:43 AM »
Oh, we have the same warning here. That's nice.

I have spent some time setting up a video. Devitalisation almost being complete and i'd like to put it out there. Still ahve some stuff to do. Devitalisation was actually FUN with the whole multiple explods expanding up thing



Would prefer comments here if you must make them.

Blasted thing, i just wanted a link, don't convert it and make me learn how youtube works...
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 01:35:29 AM by Cyanide »

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