Author Topic: Why do peple Hate Mugen 1.0? (Read 4070 times)

oglocdx10 · « **on:** October 12, 2011, 08:26:58 PM »

Like i don't get it. Why do people perfer Winmugen over Mugen 1.0? I mean i have not had any problems with Mugen 1.0 Like i have had with Winmugen. Plus mine has not crashed like Winmugen does.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #1 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:30:49 PM »

It's mainly because some WinMugen chars and stages won't work in 1.0 without a patch. But apparently they refuse to use these patches and cling onto the past

animaraz · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:41:57 PM »

hay tres chars que me encantan: firestrom de Jhfer, Arina de Kazuya y Gen de Luvly Angel. Al igual que el stage de Base Gamma. Si funcionaran en mugen 1.0 yo mudaba al resto de mis personajes.

I three chars that love: firestrom of Jhfer, Arina of Kazuya and Gen of Angel Luvly. As the stage Gamma Base. If it works in mugen 1.0 I moved the rest of my characters.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:56:55 PM »

Gamma Base DOES work. Also I don't think Firestar's released yet

oglocdx10 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2011, 08:57:21 PM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on October 12, 2011, 08:30:49 PM

It's mainly because some WinMugen chars and stages won't work in 1.0 without a patch. But apparently they refuse to use these patches and cling onto the past

I figured it was because of sudden stages and characters. I mean the only character i had problems trasferring was Cable by Kong (whatever is on random select i am to lazy to go there right now) i think but i was able to replace him..I mean i know people are going to stick to Winmugen but Me personally Mugen 1.0 is Superior.

O Ilusionista · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2011, 09:08:16 PM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on October 12, 2011, 08:30:49 PM

It's mainly because some WinMugen chars and stages won't work in 1.0 without a patch. But apparently they refuse to use these patches and cling onto the past

Its not only that. There are somethings which doesn't works well or don't work on mugen 1.0

- Tile, on stages, always have a 1 pixel problem. It could appear to be minimum, but in somecases it will break the tile, making a 1 pixel empty line. On transparent parts, it can on top of another part, so you will notice

- Tile spacing, where you don't need to set it on winmugen if the part will be "perfect tiled" (the tile will have the same size of the sprite), is buged. You need to set it, giving the right value

- freqmul, on PlaySND, doesn't works. At all.

- there is a difference on the colors wich Mugen 1.0 shows over winmugen, where the last one is exactly what you have.

I know there is more things. If the main reason is the fact of some few winmugen chars doesn't works on Mugen 1.0, be warned that the number of things which could be wrong on Mugen 1.1 will be HIGHER. For example,if you add zoom on a stage, it will have black part on the lower area.

But if you ask me if you should update? I say YES, update it.

I can give you two quick reasons: NO MORE mp3 problems (besides you can't run all the amount of extensions you have on winmugen), and NO MORE COMPLICATED COMMANDS to active an AI (an they, like someone said which I can't remember, have problems on 1.0). You just use a single sctrl.

ZVitor · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2011, 09:18:07 PM »

i tink people just hate re-build and re-organize roster

sexyhotlowrider · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2011, 09:23:43 PM »

I dont ''Hate'' MUGEN 1.0 but i do prefer WinMUGEN. Reason beign bc MUGEN 1.0 doest have plug-in filters like WinMUGEN, the plug-in that blurs a little the screen. Thats why I prefer WinMUGEN and yes I do know you can convert al characters to HiDef but it takes to long and most of us dont even know how. Anyways thats my opinion on this very intersting matter

LoKoLoKo · « **Reply #8 on:** October 12, 2011, 09:35:22 PM »

Cara eu nem sei criar nada!

Man I do not know to create anything!

SanjiSasuke · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2011, 09:44:55 PM »

Quote from: sexyhotlowrider on October 12, 2011, 09:23:43 PM

I dont ''Hate'' MUGEN 1.0 but i do prefer WinMUGEN. Reason beign bc MUGEN 1.0 doest have plug-in filters like WinMUGEN, the plug-in that blurs a little the screen. Thats why I prefer WinMUGEN and yes I do know you can convert al characters to HiDef but it takes to long and most of us dont even know how. Anyways thats my opinion on this very intersting matter

You don't have to do that at all. Just the ancient ninja art of Copy-Paste. Almost every single WM AI will work work just fine in 1.0. Its just that 1.0 allows you to add the new scalable AI if you want.

C.R.O.M. jodafro619 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2011, 08:16:54 AM »

the constant crashing due to music and unending onslaught or character errors was enough for me to make the jump. i was on the fence too about making the jump and when i did, i was glad to!! i can actually play and stop the game MYSELF for once and not have it stop due to crashing. my oonly beef is i don't have the option of using win quote for most characters due to i'm guess, my using a low res screenpack. but hey, i'm more than satisfied that i jump to 1.0 for the more stable game. for those on the fence, MAKE. THE. JUMP.

DanOwnsall112 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2011, 12:20:44 PM »

My only real gripe is that the screen is a little too closed in, but I got used to it (though there's probably an option the make the screen farther back that I don't know of)
Honestly though, 1.0 has been mostly much better then winmugen for me, no longer do I have to suffer from music problems and constant errors.

Tiger-Boy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2011, 12:39:51 PM »

I believe it's because that Mugen 1.0 is still new, and many have invested a lot of time in Winmugen.

It's just a matter of time and upgrading.

Acey · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2011, 12:48:12 PM »

Quote from: G.P.O.A - DanOwnsall112 on October 27, 2011, 12:20:44 PM

My only real gripe is that the screen is a little too closed in, but I got used to it (though there's probably an option the make the screen farther back that I don't know of)
Honestly though, 1.0 has been mostly much better then winmugen for me, no longer do I have to suffer from music problems and constant errors.

I agree, that's why the IMT 1.0 screen pack uses the 480x640 screen dimensions.

thehitmanzack · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2011, 01:48:16 PM »

I'm digging Mugen 1.0 because of many many reasons.

1.) The characters can be better balanced, and have the scalable AI.

2.) I can run Mp3s on ANY screenpack, unlike WinMugen where I can only run them on E.V.E. screenpack.

3.) there's no crashing unless a character or stage is not compatible with the 1.0.

4.) Everything is just more neat and trim looking.

5.) My collection of characters made by Warusaki3 still work with it, which is great because the Capcom Vs. Snk characters from him look and play pretty amazing.

I'm sure this is others but none that I can think of...

Let me say this though....

If people don't want to migrate their massive rosters to 1.0 then that's their fault for being lazy. Seriously, Mugen 1.0 is the way to go, I switched over as soon as I could because I knew the experience would be better.

JagwarKnight · « **Reply #15 on:** October 27, 2011, 02:05:16 PM »

My take on why some people don't wanta switch?

Parts of it are stage and character related but really, to me, I think it boils down to WinMUGEN+ having MORE easy to use screenpacks along with hi-res lifebars than MUGEN 1.0,mind you, I made the switch and I'm NOT going back to WinMUGEN, but reguardless...

Is it silly? Yeah, but not so much as the other reasons I've seen for sticking with WinMUGEN and really, to me, is the only good reason given how MUGEN 1.0 is a INSANE step up from WinMUGEN with a lot more features to it

SanjiSasuke · « **Reply #16 on:** October 27, 2011, 09:00:37 PM »

I definitely see that. I still had 1.0 and Win back before the IMT Blue got released. Once it came out I ditched LoseMUGEN altogether. I think most good/popular SPs (BrokenMUGEN, EVE, Dureceller's, IMT Red/Blue, etc) are converted though, as well as more and more that are coming through for 1.0 only.

JagwarKnight · « **Reply #17 on:** October 27, 2011, 11:24:05 PM »

Not only that, but if you're willing to play in 320x240 res, ALL the winMUGEN screenpacks work, barring a lack of a Win screen along with all the low res bars. only problem? no one really plays that res anymore so... Barely anyone knows that

catbat74 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 28, 2011, 02:06:23 AM »

I still keep one regular mugen screenpack, DC vs Marvel, at least till it gets converted to 1.0

JagwarKnight · « **Reply #19 on:** October 28, 2011, 03:14:38 PM »

Quote from: catbat74 on October 28, 2011, 02:06:23 AM

I still keep one regular mugen screenpack, DC vs Marvel, at least till it gets converted to 1.0

which version is it?

zombiebrock · « **Reply #20 on:** October 28, 2011, 04:01:57 PM »

i have no idea why so many are anti 1.0, i know

of miss information got out in the beggining of 1.0 that

of characters dont work with it, and i can tell u from someone whos been pro 1.0 since it was released ,this just isnt true ive only ran across about id say 30 characters that crashed , but werent very hard to make work in 1.0 out of about 3000 chars i have

SanjiSasuke · « **Reply #21 on:** October 28, 2011, 06:57:40 PM »

Yeah, I had maybe 6-7 chars where it was as easy as fixing the version date or taking out some crap code that wasn't working in WM anyway.

catbat74 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:26:10 PM »

well actually I have 2, the one from scruffy dragon and the high res one from CVG

Quote from: JagwarKnight on October 28, 2011, 03:14:38 PM

which version is it?

JagwarKnight · « **Reply #23 on:** October 29, 2011, 10:35:34 AM »

Quote from: catbat74 on October 28, 2011, 08:26:10 PM

well actually I have 2, the one from scruffy dragon and the high res one from CVG

Then, the Scruffy one will work on MUGEN 1.0 if you're willing to use 340x280 and don't mind not having a win screen, the CVG one, sorry, out of luck unless someone's willing to convert it/CVG updates it to MUGEN 1.0

.:K.I.N.G:. · « **Reply #24 on:** November 09, 2011, 06:50:18 AM »

-still need some fixing regarding specific codes and triggers

-playing in higher res or hd will need a powerful processor or else you'll end up playing with the old 640x480 res as winmugen cuz higher res wil cause the video to slow down greatly, I hope that the next update allows hardware rending using the gfx card instead of all being software driven.

-compatibility, some of the current characters will need serious updating/fixing to be bug free under version 1

-V1 is almost the same RC8, they simply called it V1 to get ppl off their backs for a while as it appears they don't have much time to update and fix the issue faster anymore.

I'm simply waiting to see a significant improvement other than the AI in order for me to upgrade to V1

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