Project X Bug thread

[Acey]

Okay guys, I really like this game, so I took some time to gather what feedback I could :

FEEDBACK IS IN HERE

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-Beast's maximum spider like hyper is kinda loose, sometimes he ends up in odd places while trying to do it.

 -Deadpool still has that bug on his combo hyper were when he tries to land and stab you with his sword, he doesn't always land in the correct position of where he is supposed land when stabbing p2

 - Iceman doesn't have any sound on his hard crouch punch. He also doesnt have a hit sound on his D,DB,B, any kick special move where the ice shard fall from the ceiling. There is a whoosh sound effect on them when they are failing but not when they actually hit the opponent.

 - of the characters when hitting their opponent with special attacks or hyper attacks, the light hit sound is being played when the opponent is hit instead of a hard attack hit sound. I'm just saying, when your hitting someone with a special or hyper attack, you wouldnt want the light hit sound or even medium hit sound to get played, you want to hard hit sound to get played. It sounds better and it adds so much to the characters.

- After Omega red hits you with his Omega Destroyer, sometimes the hits dont always connect, and also after being hit with them, the opponent lands on their feet. I just think that after being hit with that, they should fall on the ground atleast, but that's just me.

- I'm noticing that Bishop cannot be hit by a couple of people attacks like, Omega red's crouch punch, Rogue's Lightning Bolt attack that she got from thor. thats all i saw for now may be more but i'm not sure.

- Collosus, when he does his move where he picks up a piece of the ground and throws it at you, well it hits the opponent, it has no hit sound at all

- On Storm's lighting storm hyper D,DF,F, x+y  she stays in the super pause too long where as the opponent is able to roam free before she releases it, thus making it very hard for you to hit them with the attack if they can nearly almost every time see it coming and dodge it.  

- This is more a question, is there a reason that env.shake is not applied on of the hypers that the characters have. I think it would add more to the characters and make things look more dynamic when doing the hyper moves. Atleast adding it to the characters hit def. For example look at O"Illusionista's Spec Op characters, he adds shake on the hypers, it adds more a dynamic feel too it. I think if you applied this to the characters in this game, it would definitely add more to the gameplay experience!  

- Some characters don't have all of their sounds in order like for example, light attack gets light hit sound, medium attack gets medium hit sound, and hard attack get hard attack hit sound. It makes the game feel more complete if set up that way and makes it feel more like a real capcom like game. Never the less the game is still awesome!! I freakin love it!!


 Well anyway guys, that is all i noticed so far. I usually don't giv that much feedback, unless i really like something, and guys I freakin love this game. If I could have been given the full game all of this that I listed, I would have fixed myself, but only you guys can. I can tell you guys really worked hard on this version, and you fixed of the issues it had with the last version, and i am so proud of you guys for doing so. Please dont take offense to my feedback, i merely want this game to be the best it can be and i'm sure that most of my feedback was reasonable and not main personal preference. thanks for the awesome release and I hope you guys look into what I said ok?....

I am offended that you're trolling us with your hate... just kidding

* Prof X AI changed so doesn't do combos that players can't
* Beast Feral Charge hyper hit boxe size increased
* Fixed Deadpool hyper possitioning
* Iceman Crouch HP sound
* Iceman D,B,K sounds
* Omega Red, opponent fall on Omega Destroyer
* Colossus projectile hit sound
* Storm lightning storm hyer paus adjusted
* Fixed air pos Y on lightning storm

* The unmatched hitsounds, I guess I'll have to findthose unless someone puts together a list to help me out.

Ok, this will be uploaded in the next 15 minutes.

[ceefus]

Does everybody know  u can select spiderman by pressing down when highlighting deadpool 

[Jelux Da Casual]

Does everybody know  u can select spiderman by pressing down when highlighting deadpool 

Was a secret...

[Acey]

Was a secret...

Not a very good one that at.   Thanks ceefus for the spoiler, sheesh.  

[ceefus]

sorry acey didbt realize  it was a secret   opppp my apologies

[Jelux Da Casual]

Not so much a bug as is a complaint. Bastion phase 2 is bullcarp. He can get locked into a routine so that when you hit him during a move, he'll repeat the move, sometimes before he even finishes it.

Plus the fact that he's invincible while the portal is open is ridiculous cause the portal doesn't stay closed long enough, sometimes by the time you realize their aren't sentinels flying all over the screen it's too late.

Ok, so, he can be hit outside of the portal, but as long as it's up, he regens and and sentinels keep "coming out of it" right?

Also, some supers do no damage to him at all, for instance Cyclops's Optic Rage.

[Acey]

Ok, so, he can be hit outside of the portal, but as long as it's up, he regens and and sentinels keep "coming out of it" right?

Also, some supers do no damage to him at all, for instance Cyclops's Optic Rage.

Ok, I'll tel you a little... the portal can be broken... and you're on to something with supers not working.

[Jelux Da Casual]

Ok, I'll tel you a little... the portal can be broken... and you're on to something with supers not working.

Oh, I'm familiar with breaking the portal, just when I do, it never stays down long enough to do any real damage. He's also invincible while he's inside it, isn't he?

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

I am offended that you're trolling us with your hate... just kidding

* Prof X AI changed so doesn't do combos that players can't
* Beast Feral Charge hyper hit boxe size increased
* Fixed Deadpool hyper possitioning
* Iceman Crouch HP sound
* Iceman D,B,K sounds
* Omega Red, opponent fall on Omega Destroyer
* Colossus projectile hit sound
* Storm lightning storm hyer paus adjusted
* Fixed air pos Y on lightning storm

* The unmatched hitsounds, I guess I'll have to findthose unless someone puts together a list to help me out.

Ok, this will be uploaded in the next 15 minutes.

 Hahaha, yeah i kno right!! hahaha Thanks for taking the time to read my feedback, hope that it was helpful. I think I can go in and see what characters have the unmatched hitsounds, besides I go in and do this all the time with the patches I make.

[ZVitor]

tip about bastion, use multi hits attacks to break portal, and 1 hit attack with high damage to beat bastion.

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i did some test with storm + bishop problem.

storm have some thunders moves, and bishop could absorve that, but dont should absorve wind attacks, edit attributes of bishop and storm is painful, because alucard and wucash code style is different (soft way to say it is messed), and we must be careful, or it will bug if we miss some helper or set a wrong atribute to mystique counter, or iceman walls....
so easy solution, storm added to group of chars wich powers cant be absorved by bishop.

typhoon will hit bishop, but he will not absorve her thunder.

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

Ok i'm back with some more feedback, so like last time here ya go

FEEDBACK IS HERE

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Omega Strike with a, b , or c need to be checked cuz 2 of them have no hitsound when they hit the opponent

Omega Destroyer has no hitsound when the opponent is hit as well

Characters voice overs need to be turned up in the character's snd because you can barely hear them, even when the music is turned down. Speaking of which the music is a bit loud off the rip, so i would suggest it to be turned to atleast 30 to 40 percent and base the normalizing of the voice overs to be near the same noise level as that. No offense I'm just saying whats the purpose of having a voice over for a character if you can barely hear what they are saying?... See what I mean?... No disrespect intended if I offended, just saying.

Namor voice overs come in too late, more like right after whatever move he's done whether it be a normal attack, special or hyper move . His voice overs come in too late. All what needs to be done to fix it, is to take some of the sounds and cut them so they will play in sync with whatever he is doing at the time.

Mystique D,DF,F, any kick special has a light hit sound instead of having a hard attack hit sound.

Mystique also doesn't have a slice whoosh sound on her when she swings the knife she has. Instead she has a hard punch whoosh sound but it should be a slice whoosh sound to add to the effect and give the feel like she is really swinging something sharp at you.

On Mystique's D,DF,F, a+b hyper when she hit the opponent medium hit sounds are only played when it should be hard hit sounds or atleast a mix between the 2 to give it that capcom feel and it sounds better that way. Her some her normal attacks dont have the right hit sounds. Her standing light kick has the medium punch hit sound, her standing medium kick has the hard punch hit sound, and the hard kick has the medium kick hit sound.

Cyclops has no hit sound on his Optic Wave hyper and on his other hypers when his beam hits the opponent the light punch hit sound is played when it should be either the hard punch hit sound or the projectile hit sound that is played in MVC 2 when cyclops or whom ever hits the opponent with a beam. Same thing goes for his all of his beam specials. again the wrong hit sound is being played when the beams or projectiles hit the opponent instead it should be the hard punch hit sound or the MVC 2 projectile sound. Like before, this would add more to the gameplay experience with this Cylcops

Thats all i will do for today but i will be back with more feedback on my end.

[prnzokoshiro]

ok, before I even report any bugs... gun moves.

In an MvC-ish environment, supers/hypers filling the screen with projectile are commonplace. And chars can also casually fire invisible (realistic) bullets that travel the screen ultra-fast and affect the whole horizontal space you may have not jumped out of, we know all this, I'm just sayin.

So that brings me to Deadpool and Birdy.  Their gun specials are too quick, with too fast of a recovery.  With the usual styles of playing, these are perfectly punishable and it doesn't present a problem.  But dash-in, block, dash-in, block or super-jump, block, punish goes a hair quicker in actual MvC than it does here.  So they can play a very mean keep-away game.  Deadpool's has a very small charge to execute, but you can charge in-between things and pretty much have it ready anytime.  And maybe it's just what Birdy needs if she's not gonna be updated since her QCF + K is useless (Prof X's is a much better stun attack, though it has less range than Birdy's) and her other specials are decent (landmine is good to decrease rush-in options like Beast), but still, it's not right (I know I said Birdy was weak, but I just noticed all this while playin today.  Her normals are good, no complaints there).  And nobody has a special that goes through projectiles in certain frames as far as I know other than Nightcrawler (something I notice in mugen chars a lot, along with supers with no NotHitBys but that doesn't seem to be a problem here).  Mystique is worse but at least she has limited bullets before she has to reload.  Bishop has guns and Cable has a gun as a normal, but they have appropriate start-up delay.  And Cable and Namor effectively have guns, as rays.  But again, start-up makes them fine.  So effectively, the 2 I'm talkin about are like Dhalsim or Necro but worse.  And not slow as an old man gettin his hole.

What I'm sayin is, just to consider when you do one of your future updates, can you please do one of these..  a.) decrease the damage dished out by Deadpool and Birdy's guns  b.) make Deadpool's charge a little longer (possibly make Birdy's a charge?) c.) give them a tiny bit longer recovery after firing or tiny bit start-up delay, or d.) make block damage a 0 (least preferable) ?


P.S. Sorry if that sounded long-winded and pretentious or anything, I didn't mean it to be.  And maybe I didn't play enough to see that they need these options, but right now that's how it seems.  It's just a thought.

[Acey]

Those are probably good things (gun stufff), I'll compare the data and we'll make a decision on how to act.

Edit: regarding the guns, nothing is going to change, the start up varies according to the particular move in question but all have the appropraite recovery times to make the moves punishable.

[Jelux Da Casual]

Oh man, I forgot to say, when Rouge gains Mystique's power, should her hair turn red?

[Acey]

Mystique is not a real redhead, she dyes it.

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[HyperVoiceActing]

I don't really mind the not-red-haired-ness when she steals from Mystique

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

Um.... Don't forget about the latest feedback I left, its very important stuff....

[Acey]

Um.... Don't forget about the latest feedback I left, its very important stuff....

I already fixed and update 75% of it. Everything up to Mystique's knives, she now shares Wolverine's sharp sounds, and deadpool too.

[~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~]

I already fixed and update 75% of it. Everything up to Mystique's knives, she now shares Wolverine's sharp sounds, and deadpool too.

Oh ok, sorry to come off the way I did, i just thought some of that stuff needed some of that stuff needed immediate attention. Thanks for fixing it though 

[Rage]

Is there a way to turn around in the training stage? its a little hard to hit the orbs at times because you cant turn around which cause you to miss other orbs in the process.

[HyperVoiceActing]

Is there a way to turn around in the training stage? its a little hard to hit the orbs at times because you cant turn around which cause you to miss other orbs in the process.

You can, just at very weird times and spots

[ZVitor]

char turn close to corners, i did that because main goal was not beat balls, was pratice moves, and if i set to turn if he "hold back" then will not be possible do the B,F moves.
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but moves are not hard to learn... so i tink i will set back turn to "hold back"

[Acey]

char turn close to corners, i did that because main goal was not beat balls, was pratice moves, and if i set to turn if he "hold back" then will not be possible do the B,F moves.
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but moves are not hard to learn... so i tink i will set back turn to "hold back"

I think the corners are better actially, I always use that screen to practice the character's move set before going into the real battles.

[novasod]

Right; with the new release of Second Coming, here I am again. Just an FYI: bug updates are going to be slower this time around, but rest assured, I plan to get everyone done at some point. And first off, the new guy; Professor Xavier!

1.Can't jump while dashing forwards or backwards.
2.Can't chain his standing normals together.
3.Can self-chain S.MP while moving forward at least 2 times, with the right timing.
4.Can self-chain H.MP while moving forward at least 7 times, with the right timing.
5.Can self-chain S.HK while moving forward at least 5 times, with the right timing.
6.Can self-chain C.MP at least two times, with the right timing.
7.Can attack opponent when opponent is downed, with C.LK and C.MK.
8.Can self-chain C.MK at least two times, with the right timing.
9.It's hard (but not impossible,) for him to chain Air Normals into Standing Normals.
10.Can self-chain Air.MP at least 2 times.
11.Can self-chain Air.LK at least 2 times.
12.Can self-chain Air.MK at least 2 times.
13.Has no grab.
Post Merge: October 17, 2011, 04:58:11 PMAlso, two general bugs that I noticed;

1.The debug keys are on.
2.Characters don't seem to able to use Crouching Normals when holding either DF or DB.

[Acey]

Welcome back Nova. Make sure to check the user manual too for some additional insight to the game mechanics. Prof X is a LMH combo char, level 0 telepath. The manual doesn't say that all telepaths can chain some light attacks.