Author Topic: Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Read 193583 times)

Space (DCL) · « **Reply #7425 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:16:45 AM »

Theres been a recording feature since the first mvc3...all it does though is record the exact input and timing you do on your controller, but only for 10 seconds. To access it, go to the controller settings in training mode only, then reconfigure the buttons for recording and playback input.

Dead Phoenix · « **Reply #7426 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:42:15 AM »

Hey did any of you know that while you advance gaurd when in X Factor, you slow down the drainning time?
EDIT:
Actually it works for both the attacker and defender. The attacker XF time slows as well.

C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle · « **Reply #7427 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:51:38 AM »

Quote from: DCL on November 21, 2011, 12:16:45 AM

Theres been a recording feature since the first mvc3...all it does though is record the exact input and timing you do on your controller, but only for 10 seconds. To access it, go to the controller settings in training mode only, then reconfigure the buttons for recording and playback input.

I just tried it. Thanks...

...but ten seconds is not good enough. That sucks...

Quote from: Dead Phoenix on November 21, 2011, 12:42:15 AM

Hey did any of you know that while you advance gaurd when in X Factor, you slow down the drainning time?

You mean drainning time of X-Factor?

Dead Phoenix · « **Reply #7428 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:53:51 AM »

Quote from: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on November 21, 2011, 12:51:38 AM

You mean drainning time of X-Factor?

Yes. But I don't think anyone can take advantage of it unless they go for a time out since it works for both partys

C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle · « **Reply #7429 on:** November 21, 2011, 01:12:04 AM »

Quote from: Dead Phoenix on November 21, 2011, 12:53:51 AM

Yes. But I don't think anyone can take advantage of it unless they go for a time out since it works for both partys

Yeah, but usually only one player has X-Factor activated at a time, and you can only Advance Guard while...'guarding'...

...so it saves that valuable time...

Interesting though...

Dead Phoenix · « **Reply #7430 on:** November 21, 2011, 02:37:40 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZv9UBANf94&feature=player_embedded#

Edit:
http://www.gytnews.com/articles/commentary/early-usage-chart-of-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3.html

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Early usage chart of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Written by Glenn | 21 November 2011

Before you check out the list, try to think about what you've seen in the past week. I've created my Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 database, and my goal isn't to break down everything that happens in a match; I'm going to save all of those minute details for Super Street Fighter IV.

Instead, my plan is to find THE best team and how it stacks up with possible counter teams. As we saw with regular Marvel vs. Capcom 3, the goal was to create a team that could either do best with Phoenix or a team that could counter Phoenix. Many people predicted that a Phoenix would make the finals of several major tournaments, so the idea was to either beat them or join them.

If you've seen the site Basketball Value, what they do over there is stack up on-court teams and players and find out how they have done against other on-court teams. That way, we can put values to players and see whether they are holding up their weight while playing.

So what you will see in this list is just the beginning of the statistical journey for Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3.

In regard to this list, let's just keep in mind that it's been used in tournaments for just a week. Things will definitely change as the weeks pass. We've seen that with other games, and this will be no different.

I recorded the characters used in every match played in the following tournaments. Not every match was streamed, but I got all of them within the time frame that were streamed.

•Big Two (Top 8, 10 matches)
•Wednesday Night Fights Arcade Edition 3.3 (Top 8, 8 matches)
•Starbase 11/16 (Top 6, 6 matches)
•Thursday Night Throwdown: We Know Drama (Top 8, 11 matches)
•Cross Counter Open (Top 6, 9 matches including the second finals)
In terms of being the point, if a character was used as a point at any point in the match, it counted. So it's possible for one team to have two point characters. It rarely happened, though.

In total, there were 44 matches charted in this analysis.

And the winner is ...

Character
Total
As PG

Wesker
27
15

Vergil
22
13

Magneto
17
10

Sentinel
17
0

Zero
16
8

Frank West
16
4

Hawkeye
13
2

Storm
13
2

Taskmaster
13
1

Dante
12
0

Spencer
10
2

Doctor Doom
9
1

Nova
9
0

Nemesis T-Type
8
8

Ryu
7
4

Dormammu
7
3

Capt. America
6
4

Firebrand
6
1

Ghost Rider
5
5

C.Viper
5
3

Doctor Strange
5
0

Akuma
4
0

Iron Fist
3
3

Wolverine
3
1

Deadpool
3
0

Viewtiful Joe
2
2

Jean Grey
2
0

Morrigan
2
0

Rocket Raccoon
2
0

Strider Hiryu
2
0

Phoenix Wright
1
0

X-23
1
0

I really thought Frank West was going to be the most-used character, and it appeared that way, but Wesker kept showing up match after match. Keep in mind that the characters that reappear are coming up in latter parts of tournaments, including championship matches.

With that in mind, Wesker has appeared in 61.4 percent of matches so far, while Vergil has been in 50 percent of matches. However, Vergil has only been the point 29.5 percent of the time, and Wesker has been a point character 34.1 percent of the time.

In addition, here's the championship rosters of the five tournaments:

•Big Two: Storm (PG), Wesker, Doctor Doom
•Wednesday Night Fights Arcade Edition 3.3: Ghost Rider (PG), Hawkeye, Sentinel
•Starbase 11/16: Frank West (PG), Dante, Doctor Doom
•Thursday Night Throwdown: We Know Drama: Ghost Rider (PG), Sentinel, Dormammu
•Cross Counter Open: Vergil (PG), Nova, Dante
It's weird that Ghost Rider has been only used five times (and only as a PG), but he's won two of these five tournaments.

EDIT 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6K33MK46z8&feature=player_embedded#

JDubbs · « **Reply #7431 on:** November 22, 2011, 01:01:01 PM »

I just picked up this disk and I have a few commentaries on it:

1) What in the blue hell is Firebrand supposed to be?

2) Nova is such a douche. Which is why I like him

.

3) Hawkeye is surprisingly hard to use if you dont spam. Maybe thats why I'm drawn to him.

4) Im still confused by Iron First. I havent figured out the chi's yet and inadvertently keep switching when Im trying to do something else like Dragon whip.

5) I call BS on whoever said that Strange doesnt play like Magneto. He certainly does. Thats not to say he's a pallet swap, but he has the same tendencies such as quick combos that do

of damage.

6) Ghost Rider = meh. I'm unimpressed

7) Strider Hiryu is a very difficult character to use. He was a lot simpler in MvC2 since there were different buttons for kicks. But I digress...

What in the blue hell is Frank West's theme? Its just some random people talking. Its more random than Deadpool's. I actually like using him as he reminds me of Cody from SSIV.

9) I feel that there could have been a better choice than to put Nemesis in this game, but he's ok. I probably wont use him much as he is pretty much RE's version of Juggernaut but with a rocket launcher.

10) Havent touched Vergil yet. I will soon.

11) Screw Phoenix Wright and Rocket Raccoon. I hate them both. They should not be in this game. I refuse to play with them. They are just punching bags for me especially for chibi fights. I dont care if the Raccoon is good, he shouldnt be in this game. there are better people that should have been included. I've said this a million times before but it never has that much effect until I actually have the game. Screw this game and screw those two.

12) Does anyone else think that Wolverine's swiss cheese is the most useless move ever?

13) Captain America is more deadly than before now that his downward shield slash on the ground lifts people. Has anyone found a way to turn it into Final Justice?

14) I hate how they took out Ironman's double jump air combo.

15) Is it just me or did Jean's health get nerfed again?

16) I like how all the new stages are just the base stages just something changed and given a different name. Classy, Capcom!

17) The endings still suck. They're really pathetic. It really degrades the game by making look like something that was put together in only 2 months.

18) I was really hoping for an interaction between Super Skrull and Frank West.

19) I like the ending reaction between Magneto and Ghost Rider. Pretty fun!

Finally 20) This game is surprisingly very very very very very very fun while very high

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #7432 on:** November 22, 2011, 01:21:22 PM »

Quote from: JDubbs on November 22, 2011, 01:01:01 PM

11) Screw Phoenix Wright and Rocket Raccoon. I hate them both. They should not be in this game. I refuse to play with them. They are just punching bags for me especially for chibi fights. I dont care if the Raccoon is good, he shouldnt be in this game. there are better people that should have been included. I've said this a million times before but it never has that much effect until I actually have the game. Screw this game and screw those two.

Very good sir. I'll fetch the cheese for your wine

C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! · « **Reply #7433 on:** November 22, 2011, 01:26:16 PM »

1) An enemy from Ghosts and Goblins.
8 ) It's the theme to the Adam the Clown boss fight in DR1.
17) Actually, they're worse now.

JDubbs · « **Reply #7434 on:** November 22, 2011, 01:29:28 PM »

Quote from: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on November 22, 2011, 01:26:16 PM

1) An enemy from Ghosts and Goblins.

That much I knew. I mean what exactly is Firebrand supposed to be

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on November 22, 2011, 01:21:22 PM

Very good sir. I'll fetch the cheese for your wine

It better be provalone cheese

C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! · « **Reply #7435 on:** November 22, 2011, 01:34:42 PM »

Quote from: JDubbs on November 22, 2011, 01:29:28 PM

That much I knew. I mean what exactly is Firebrand supposed to be

A Red Arremer.

Space (DCL) · « **Reply #7436 on:** November 22, 2011, 02:14:30 PM »

Firebrand isnt so bad...
Look how ChrisG uses him...

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HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #7437 on:** November 22, 2011, 03:13:35 PM »

Am I the only one who doesn't see why the endings are so bad?

C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! · « **Reply #7438 on:** November 22, 2011, 03:36:15 PM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on November 22, 2011, 03:13:35 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't see why the endings are so bad?

Yes.

My 3-year-old nephew could come up with better endings. They just seem rushed compared to most fighters today.

SanjiSasuke · « **Reply #7439 on:** November 22, 2011, 03:58:19 PM »

I never thought Capcom's MvC endings were all that great.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #7440 on:** November 22, 2011, 06:40:30 PM »

Quote from: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on November 22, 2011, 03:36:15 PM

Yes. My 3-year-old nephew could come up with better endings. They just seem rushed compared to most fighters today.

Yes, because story is the single most important thing in a fighting game

Acey · « **Reply #7441 on:** November 22, 2011, 06:54:52 PM »

Quote from: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on November 22, 2011, 03:36:15 PM

Yes. My 3-year-old nephew could come up with better endings. They just seem rushed compared to most fighters today.

For me it's not the quality of the ending as far as story goes, I just would have prefered something animated in a style that matched the rest of the game.

-Whiplash- · « **Reply #7442 on:** November 22, 2011, 07:04:35 PM »

Quote from: JDubbs on November 22, 2011, 01:01:01 PM

What in the blue hell is Frank West's theme? Its just some random people talking. Its more random than Deadpool's. I actually like using him as he reminds me of Cody from SSIV.

Franks theme is my fav theme in this game.

SanjiSasuke · « **Reply #7443 on:** November 22, 2011, 07:13:57 PM »

Quote from: Acey on November 22, 2011, 06:54:52 PM

For me it's not the quality of the ending as far as story goes, I just would have prefered something animated in a style that matched the rest of the game.

I agree. Capcom hasn't made real cutscenes in a fighting game, with the exception of SFIV, in a very long time. MvC's endings made sense in context, and were full animations.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #7444 on:** November 22, 2011, 07:21:11 PM »

Quote from: ⚀⚅SanjiSasuke(imagine it all orange with a blue glow!) on November 22, 2011, 07:13:57 PM

I agree. Capcom hasn't made real cutscenes in a fighting game, with the exception of SFIV, in a very long time. MvC's endings made sense in context, and were full animations.

But they didn't make a whole lot of sense either.

Also didn't X-Men vs Street Fighter also have stills?

-Whiplash- · « **Reply #7445 on:** November 22, 2011, 08:58:06 PM »

Quote from: ⚀⚅SanjiSasuke(imagine it all orange with a blue glow!) on November 22, 2011, 07:13:57 PM

I agree. Capcom hasn't made real cutscenes in a fighting game, with the exception of SFIV, in a very long time. MvC's endings made sense in context, and were full animations.

Most vs. games used still images, with the exception of mvc1.