Author Topic: Goutetsu SFA's Exclusive Update Release (Read 2860 times)

Colosse · « **Reply #25 on:** November 16, 2009, 03:43:59 PM »

since this topic is re-opened I forgot to say one little more thing on my feedback, that can serve for a future update who knows...

Goutetsu was able to come in a Satsui no Hado state & leave it when he wants. that's mean he was able to turn "evil" during an attack in order to got more power... according to the story he turn evil the time to perform a messatsu gou hado on Gouki, but this one kill him with SGS.
.... all of this in order tosay that this point could be exploited for make a super move

Also I want to add that even if Gouki learn SGS by himself, Goutetsu knew at last the first step to do for performing a SGS, so to see a form of SGS on Goutetsu doesnt surprise me, IMO. (even Dan make a form of SGS.... XD)

ANGELM · « **Reply #26 on:** November 16, 2009, 04:32:44 PM »

Quote from: Ohsky on November 16, 2009, 03:11:08 PM

im humble enough to accept i dont have talent, hope that serves as an example.

Just because you don't have talent, doesn't mean you can't make good mugen stuff

Ohsky · « **Reply #27 on:** November 16, 2009, 05:17:27 PM »

as far as i know, i didnt made any good mugen stuff, just an spritesheet none talented creator cared about, and used to a good purpose.

well, at least i enjoyed it myself. But by "good" in the mugen sense means to me is good for the majority

do yourself a favour, listen more to the feedback of talented creators, putting aside they are being assholes with you, they know something worth considering.

Who are talented creators?, you should guess by yourself

btw your chars are so bad none will care improving or editing them, only pots has that "honor" (or curse), that´s the truth my friend... just keep in mind how humans work: they use the law of the minimum effort.

ANGELM · « **Reply #28 on:** November 16, 2009, 05:45:43 PM »

idk man.....that Gouken sprites you made........that's worth something.........

I do listen to feedback. It's the feedback that helped me make this update for Goutetsu

I know that some people say that my characters are bad......But all that matters to me is that I'm doing it for the good of mugen...........I ain't doing it for myself........

Ohsky · « **Reply #29 on:** November 16, 2009, 07:12:03 PM »

once the f**k*** retarded sf4 gouken came out, my work went to the trashcan,well, it was before that, but that circumstance, put my work to a dead end it seems; that´s all i can say about my history in mugen... because people are much more onto licking capcom´s d***, than mine. People aren´t onto originality, people are onto accuraccy, onto not doing anything original for themselves. Just, onto being cocksuckers. That´s what sells.

kamekaze · « **Reply #30 on:** November 16, 2009, 07:21:00 PM »

Quote from: ANGELM on November 16, 2009, 05:45:43 PM

I know that some people say that my characters are bad......But all that matters to me is that I'm doing it for the good of mugen...........I ain't doing it for myself........

And that's the problem. The idea of making anything for mugen is solely meant for your self. If you choose to share it, you are allowing it to be judged by both the talentless and the talented. Whether you even fix the bugs reported is completely up to you. It's rare for anyone's first char to be worth anything, for it is a learning process. BUT, that doesn't mean you shouldn't pay attention to feedback on said char. Especially if each char you make is consistently bad. Learn from your mistakes and keep walking.

Quote from: Ohsky on November 16, 2009, 07:12:03 PM

once the f**k*** retarded sf4 gouken came out, my work went to the trashcan, that´s all i can say about my history in mugen... because people are much more onto licking capcom´s d***, than mine. People aren´t onto originality, people are onto accuraccy, onto not doing anything original for themselves. Just, onto being cocksuckers. That´s what sells.

Originality is defined as something that has not been done before, and if that original thing is not a generally good idea. Of course people won't like it. Like it or not, accuracy is key when you slap any kind of surname on a char(mvc,cvs, whatever) That instantly sets a standard that people will enforce when judging your work. In fact that's my main gripe with

of chars. They slap surnames on chars and don't even bother trying to at least make it function properly and it ends up being a mess(not talking about the char of this thread, i'm just speaking in general now).

Here's an example, say this char had SFA infront of "Goutetsu" and it had mvc chaining. It would attract accuracy whores by the thousand just because of "SFA" and yet SFA gameplay is missing. Thus deeming it a failure untill those mechanics are applied.

Ohsky · « **Reply #31 on:** November 16, 2009, 07:27:54 PM »

wtf kamekaze, your make me goin slept zzZZZZZzzzzz

Orochi Gill · « **Reply #32 on:** November 17, 2009, 11:52:58 AM »

Quote from: Ohsky on November 16, 2009, 01:27:10 PM

Ogill go back tou your home

Funny, as that's where my computer is.

vortex35 · « **Reply #33 on:** November 17, 2009, 05:20:57 PM »

Actually Im gonna have to disagree about that talent thing I know I haven't mad a character or anything but Mugen is a computer program and if you study it enough look at how other people code their characters ask question, and spend the time actually needed to make a good character trust me you can make one. I'm not saying you don't do some of those things at all but I feel like you work comes out too soon and the creativity isnt really there yea we all know he is a shoto and therefore he will for the most part have shoto basics but you could spice him up more than you have already and I'm not particularly saying you don't have your heart into your character but when work on him you wanna get to the point where you can ignore the bull**** and take what needs to be improved upon from trolls(i'm not saying anyone on here was a troll as far as I know) from trolls I continue to wish you luck on this!

Ohsky · « **Reply #34 on:** November 18, 2009, 11:38:39 PM »

some ppl have the mugen spark, some doesn´t. The rest replicate what´s previously been done.

If you are not good at mugen creation and you try to be good at it, there´s dark motivations in your mind for it, wah. (check: mugen fame, community recognition, d*** size ego increasing, etc etc etc)

ANGELM · « **Reply #35 on:** November 19, 2009, 10:35:03 AM »

Quote from: Ohsky on November 18, 2009, 11:38:39 PM

some ppl have the mugen spark, some doesn´t. The rest replicate what´s previously been done.

If you are not good at mugen creation and you try to be good at it, there´s dark motivations in your mind for it, wah. (check: mugen fame, community recognition, d*** size ego increasing, etc etc etc)

Size ego?

Where that come from?

George Costanza · « **Reply #36 on:** November 19, 2009, 04:52:26 PM »

Quote from: OrochiGill on November 13, 2009, 08:16:41 PM

and I like how quoting a post and tossing a smiley in isn't considered spam.

Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) · « **Reply #37 on:** November 19, 2009, 05:08:21 PM »

wow, i am not sure exactly what to say on this. but ya know what i really do think tho, there is a real lack of total originality in the mugen community as far as i have seen for the almost 4 years i been at it. i am tired of all the shoto clones, they are beyond played out and then there is the 83 kens and ryu floating around. not very good Kof character edits poppin up here and there and

and i mean ALOT of bad broken characters. i have found but yet a handful of really good original characters and very very good edits of existing characters made into whole new personas. Thats what i am looking for for my mugen collection. one good game i can make with really good characters and play that sucker on my huge flat screen.

. i too wanna make my own characters and it aint that easy for some of us and others are just good at it cause they been around longer and have the know how with more fluent ease.
i think if you do your character yurself you should put some good effort into it. an edit or a completely original work. Oh man and if it is an original work, treat it like its your baby! Goku Hr is the best of the hi res characters originally i have seen made. perfect.

of work had to go into that. and all 4 of Aduzzi characters . perfect.
thats what you want to strive for with time and dedication. and as said earlier , no one should expect their first wip to be awesome like that unless they already know what they doing and if you sharing your work and going for accuracy then just know when you do that and share your character your gonna get feedback of some sort. just do the best you can and take your time and things will go well. for certain my friend.

Worksa8 · « **Reply #38 on:** November 19, 2009, 06:07:55 PM »

Yeah ANGELM I really think you should start taking some of the feedback and working on it, as it stands these characters need a lot of work done- but that can only happen if you make it happen. Your projects aren't bad, and I wish you luck...

Ohsky · « **Reply #39 on:** November 19, 2009, 07:05:17 PM »

what i mean is that to be at professional level on mugen creation like the most known mugen creators you need much more than just desiring to create a char. That´s why there are so few of those.

Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) · « **Reply #40 on:** November 19, 2009, 07:26:31 PM »

Quote from: Ohsky on November 19, 2009, 07:05:17 PM

what i mean is that to be at professional level on mugen creation like the most known mugen creators you need much more than just desiring to create a char. That´s why there are so few of those.

Hmmm well i thought in life in pursiut of dreams and wanna do things in your life that you must at least have a 'want to become' mindframe so you can one day become professional at your dreams and goals. yeah i think there are not

of "professional" character , animation and coding creators in mugen but i would think that the ones that arent good at it will one day strive with trial and error to become at the professional level. everybody gotta start somewhere ya know.

no matter what level of mugen creation you are , it takes the wanting to make a character to actually well wanna make a character.

. just try to do what ya can. some edits and spriting and coding and all are

harder than other i would believe. like you said and i said, i have only seen a FEW at that level. but mugen wasnt i think to be intended for just the pros. it was for us all. the noobs, the intermediate, the talentless, the great and the masters. yeah angelM character does needs some work. thats known and he knows too. just wants feedback in a respective format. thats what true pros do. I swear sometimes tho the way i see peeps go at each other, bashing, ranting and all, you would think they was paying for mugen and demand good work for money they never gonna pay. LMAO!! as fellow mugenites we should all respect each other and be pros even in feedback.

Ohsky · « **Reply #41 on:** November 20, 2009, 06:19:22 PM »

Quote from: lando33 on November 19, 2009, 07:26:31 PM

Hmmm well i thought in life in pursiut of dreams and wanna do things in your life that you must at least have a 'want to become' mindframe so you can one day become professional at your dreams and goals. yeah i think there are not of "professional" character , animation and coding creators in mugen but i would think that the ones that arent good at it will one day strive with trial and error to become at the professional level. everybody gotta start somewhere ya know.

no matter what level of mugen creation you are , it takes the wanting to make a character to actually well wanna make a character. . just try to do what ya can. some edits and spriting and coding and all are harder than other i would believe. like you said and i said, i have only seen a FEW at that level. but mugen wasnt i think to be intended for just the pros. it was for us all. the noobs, the intermediate, the talentless, the great and the masters. yeah angelM character does needs some work. thats known and he knows too. just wants feedback in a respective format. thats what true pros do. I swear sometimes tho the way i see peeps go at each other, bashing, ranting and all, you would think they was paying for mugen and demand good work for money they never gonna pay. LMAO!! as fellow mugenites we should all respect each other and be pros even in feedback.

on the three years i have been on mugen, i havent see just one, that does such a thing.

Mugen is for every f**k*** human being, that´s the problem, that most of you think you have to reach some kind of level of mugen making to be accepted.

CREATE, besides that, Imagine, that mugen is like life itself, people acting the same. Because it is. As many other mental guettos are.

AND, accept, your creations are crappy, in comparison with pro level creators. Until you do something that erradicates that label. Mugen life is cruel, wtf!.

Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) · « **Reply #42 on:** November 20, 2009, 06:57:15 PM »

Ohsky.. i feel you on that 100 percent. saying the same thing but i used more words .

. hey heyy i dont know about mugen life being hard tho... i aint made anything yet...yet.

. i am very very nooby. starting from scratch on everything. and trust me , its hard! but once i get the hang of things i would hope i could and will only get better at it. trial and error man. i will test out goutetsu and see for myself and see if i like him or not. still again, not a fan of shotos like that but hey i got 2 ryu's 2 kens, 2 goukens and 1 akuma , dan and eric and well... thats it so what the heck i mind as well give him a shot too.

shenrehua · « **Reply #43 on:** November 22, 2009, 08:00:18 AM »

are u there? sorry to bother u,but can you send me master huang?
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DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #44 on:** November 23, 2009, 12:48:31 AM »

Quote from: shenrehua on November 22, 2009, 08:00:18 AM

are u there? sorry to bother u,but can you send me master huang?
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First of all welcome to the forum. But.....

This is not the request section, Oh here it is....

http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=9.0

We do not put our emails in the request. Someone will PM it to you here.

Thanx for your cooperation & enjoy your stay at the forum

Quote from: lando33 on November 20, 2009, 06:57:15 PM

Ohsky.. i feel you on that 100 percent. saying the same thing but i used more words . . hey heyy i dont know about mugen life being hard tho... i aint made anything yet...yet. . i am very very nooby. starting from scratch on everything. and trust me , its hard! but once i get the hang of things i would hope i could and will only get better at it. trial and error man. i will test out goutetsu and see for myself and see if i like him or not. still again, not a fan of shotos like that but hey i got 2 ryu's 2 kens, 2 goukens and 1 akuma , dan and eric and well... thats it so what the heck i mind as well give him a shot too.

OK I do have to agree with you all with all the Ken's, Ryu's, Akuma's etc...

There is a lot of them out there. But hey every creator has a different vision of what the want to see in a character. So if someone decides to make another version of Ken, who I am to stop them?

Now as for creation in general. Every creator is at a different level & I think we are all striving to become better at this. From the rookie to the pro, Each & every one of us is trying to improve & out do ourselves. Do you really think any one wants to release something that absolutely sucks? Well maybe OOwhap likes too...

But besides him, we are all trying our best. Cut these guys some slack & try to help out with quality criticism. You never know who could eventually become the next Loganir, Reu, etc....
If you discourage someone enough that may never happen

Ohsky · « **Reply #45 on:** November 23, 2009, 03:42:33 AM »

i have like 7 kens, 5 ryus, 4 akumas, and 6 goukens, it´s just a question of taste. A year ago i had twice that. Btw, i despise loganir, and reu´s stuff

(reu´s chars and wonderwoman!, the most annoying chars ever).

ANGELM · « **Reply #46 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:25:20 AM »

Quote from: worksa8 on November 19, 2009, 06:07:55 PM

Yeah ANGELM I really think you should start taking some of the feedback and working on it, as it stands these characters need a lot of work done- but that can only happen if you make it happen. Your projects aren't bad, and I wish you luck...

I already have all the feedback I needed...........So there really is no point in continuing to post here since Goutetsu is already released.......

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