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Maybe it's just be, but...
« on: September 16, 2009, 08:56:02 PM »
Does anyone ever get the feeling the quality bar has shot up for mugen over the last few years? I mean, character and such quality. Heck, some people are even creating just as good, but twice as fast.
Things have moved Hi res, hitsparks are crazy, we even have a screen pack that won't run without a GB of Ram XD

I dunno, what do you think about all this?
I think it's just funny, looking back and seeing what dos mugen used to be...and what people have turned it into.



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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 09:07:26 PM »
No, I believe the direct opposite. Quality has shot down tremendously. It's rare to find a "good" character. People don't take their time anymore and poop out characters like they have a quota to meet.
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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 09:10:21 PM »
No, I believe the direct opposite. Quality has shot down tremendously. It's rare to find a "good" character. People don't take their time anymore and poop out characters like they have a quota to meet.

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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 09:11:14 PM »
No, I believe the direct opposite. Quality has shot down tremendously. It's rare to find a "good" character. People don't take their time anymore and poop out characters like they have a quota to meet.

I second that.

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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 09:41:36 PM »
I also agree with the president :P I may have been out of the Mugen scene, but even still I have noticed that people either are just rushing out half made stuff or starting wips and never getting anywhere with them. The quality is just not like it used to be years ago, that may have been what turned me off of Mugen. Things have changed in the mugen community and not exactly for the better. Would be nice to see things get back to the way they were.

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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 10:25:46 PM »
That happens more and more because of more people not having a clue, or lacking patience And the "More" people bit in general xD. (Sorry, but it's true)
But when you think about it, there was a time when Hi-Res was a "Really?...Cool"
We didn't have many characters like the Punisher, it was mostly just ones from the original MvC game.
sYn had not revolutionized stage making, many other groups that produce high quality characters and stuff did not exist.
Sure more crap things are being shot out, but that's one of the things about mugen. Picking out what you like.

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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 10:47:54 PM »
Well, quality is in the eye of the beholder I would say. So it's up to each person to decide what is worth having and what isn't. It's all a matter of choice and everyone has a different opinion. For me the quality just dropped and I ended up getting bored so I moved on. But also I see that a lot of people start wips or rush out creations to get recognition and that isn't the way to do things. It's about having a passion for your work and taking your time in making sure it is of the best quality you can offer..even better if you have a team of like minded individuals that care about the same thing and have a understanding of how the creation in question should be done. It should be treated like any art form, with passion and a creative eye for something you truly want to create.

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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 11:14:22 PM »
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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 12:16:16 AM »
Well, quality is in the eye of the beholder I would say. So it's up to each person to decide what is worth having and what isn't. It's all a matter of choice and everyone has a different opinion. For me the quality just dropped and I ended up getting bored so I moved on. But also I see that a lot of people start wips or rush out creations to get recognition and that isn't the way to do things. It's about having a passion for your work and taking your time in making sure it is of the best quality you can offer..even better if you have a team of like minded individuals that care about the same thing and have a understanding of how the creation in question should be done. It should be treated like any art form, with passion and a creative eye for something you truly want to create.
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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 02:36:13 PM »
>:-(-|

anyone notice the titles spelled "be"
I did.
I just didn't care enough to correct it =P

And I'll second that Gargos. Though I still think the quality on certain things has improved.
Try removing everything Hi res from your mugen, the characters that are done by new talented sprite artists, etc...You don't have much. I mean, lately we have been getting great new things, but people don't seem to see them. Things like the Watchmen, BloodRayne, etc...Have been touched down on.
So as a whole, the choice you have for mugen characters and such has greatly increased.

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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 04:37:07 PM »
I did.
I just didn't care enough to correct it =P

And I'll second that Gargos. Though I still think the quality on certain things has improved.
Try removing everything Hi res from your mugen, the characters that are done by new talented sprite artists, etc...You don't have much. I mean, lately we have been getting great new things, but people don't seem to see them. Things like the Watchmen, BloodRayne, WOLVENOM, etc...Have been touched down on.
So as a whole, the choice you have for mugen characters and such has greatly increased.

Fixed ....lol

Seriously I have to agree though. I think the bar has been set a little higher for mugen. There is still going to be those untouchable greats of the past like Loganir , PO.T.S, Reu, etc.....

But I think overall there are a lot of  great creations being made right now. Sure you have your share of crap that was made in a week. But that will always exist & I think as a community we have advanced 
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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 05:17:43 PM »
Personally, I think Mugen creation wise is a dying breed.

You see characters that get churned out rather fast by people that want status, that is true. On the flip side, you also see people that make an attempt to try getting themselves involved but get cut to pieces by the community because it's not up to par.

In the general community, you're either good or you're not, there is no in-between. That's unfortunate because once the "greats" are gone, who's gonna be left to carry the torch?
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Re: Maybe it's just be, but...
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 05:43:38 PM »
G Lux and Dark-Gargos...I understand how you fellows feel. =D>

Most people in Mugen these days only seem to care about doing Dark Ryu/Ken/Akuma clone #2465, rather than the next best thing. Like many things, Sturgeon's Law applies.

Luckily, there are diamonds in the rough (which I focus on seeking). For example? Card Sagas Wars: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=93401.0. As you can see, there are people dedicated enough to not only create previously unplayable characters, but make games that are entirely FROM SCRATCH.

In the world of Mugen, there should be more people willing to get in touch with the community, take their input and advice, and create stellar creations. The greatest of the great, the cream of the cream, the best there ever was and the best there ever will be.

Also, the fans must be more sympathetic to the character creators when they do mistakes. Three of this forum's main rules should be applied to this: Be helpful, be forgiving, be kind.

Thus, to all those that are willing to do the effort to make characters that everyone can enjoy, I salute you! ::salute::
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