Two-Face By COMMUNITY

[Genziroz]

=======Post Edited by Acey========

Well, looks like we're going to gang up on poor Two-Face to get him into Mugen. Thanks to Intermission for the original design and Genziroz for getting this whole process started. As you read through this thread you'll see that it took about 6 pages for this to become a community project so don't let that confuse anyone.

Base sprite:


It is very important to follow this model for colors and design of two face. Also remember, ever sprite needs to be made twice, and the matching sprites need to be the same size so that I'll have an easier time coding the character with the two set of sprites.

Here are the sprites for the Art of Fighting 3 character, Karmen, who is the main base for this character:
Download Karmen Sprite pack


=====Original Post====
Well im gonna make the sprites for this char for the DC Universe Project... here im gonna post the news and you can post suggestions and ideas for the char

the idea is to finish this char as soon as posible... and Acey will code him...

thanks Intermission for the tutorial and the head for Two Face.....

i try in the begins with 2 bases:

Cyclops Base

Cable Base

but Intermission Suggest this base:

Karman Base

and add a tutorial to make him a two face...

and this is the result of this job

my own two face
                        

well i will make this a full char whit the help of Acey coding... all the suggestion will be heard

see ya

[Kojunho]

I suggest you use Cable's hands and then you'll be set ^_^

[Alexziq]

Hmmmn, just curious, but why the cable head?

It was neat that Intermission did that, but Cables head looks nothing like Havey Dent. I can see very little differance overall. Seems like a lot of work for something thats mostly going to be heavily altered anyway

[Genziroz]

reloaded the sprite beacuse i changes his hands for the cable hands like kojunho suggest

Hmmmn, just curious, but why the cable head?

It was neat that Intermission did that, but Cables head looks nothing like Havey Dent. I can see very little differance overall. Seems like a lot of work for something thats mostly going to be heavily altered anyway

because of the lighning eye of cable seems to look similar like the eye of Harvey

[Alexziq]

Ooooooh that makes sense.


BTW

The hands look a little big

[Random Regular]

reloaded the sprite beacuse i changes his hands for the cable hands like kojunho suggest

The hands on the left one look bad, Because....Yeah..Just look at his fingers.
The right one: Right hand is wrong, the positions of his both hands look odd, But not impossible to do as a normal person.
It just looks strange.

Other than that it looks nice.

[TomBewley]

It's a nice start but I still tink that sprite needs a fair amount of work.
He has two left hands which really needs fixed

His palette is perculiar with the white leg on the right hand side having what should be the lightest part of the trousers a darker colour than other parts of the legs, which looks really odd. In fact it's the same with the leg on the left hand sprite, but the palette doesn't show it very easily.

Also the back needs more contrast as two of the shades seem very similar

Also his shoes need a bit of work

And his torso seems rather tall

I say keep working on this one sprite until you perfect then move on, otherwise further down the line you may have to redo a lot of the sprites

[tremainekr]

he should be great character are u gonna split his moves also

[juelz aka wolfi]

i only know a lil bout two face
you need ideas?

[Genziroz]

he should be great character are u gonna split his moves also

i dont understand.... because i dont speak english very well

i only know a lil bout two face
you need ideas?

yes many many ideas for hypers or supers... like trow coin and atack etc

[The King Sic-1™]

it looks like he has 2 left hand or 2 right hands... depends on witch side your looking at.

[tremainekr]

i mean like when he stands on the... left side of the screen his monster side and u press hard punch he shoots a
gun and on the right side of the screen his human lookin side and press hard punch he swings a razorblade or something. like hes two different characters or something.

[DARKTALBAIN]

tremainekr  has a good idea 

BTW : the two left or maybe two right hands look odd . The hands are also too big . He wouldn't wear gloves on them   

[Genziroz]

he need gloves because his hands look bad... and the size of them is to big because i forgot re size xD
i gonna make new sprite remplasing the hands and put him a gun... i dont know if a razorblade looks good both....

[Astaroth]

I suggest you go with a look that's a little less like TAS, or at least make a smart pallette so we can change his hair color without changing his suit's color.

[Genziroz]

ok guys here is my final sprite... i make all the corection..... new shoes new globes and a gun in the white side



hope you like this one.... and then i can star the project at all

[The King Sic-1™]

might want to scale him down a lil.... too tall.

[A New Challenger]

You're still not resizing him properly, he's still miscolored, the hands still don't look right, and he shouldn't have Cable's space gun.

Sorry man, but this shouldn't take multiple tries if you're at an appropriate skill level to WIP it. Sit this one out.

[Alexziq]

the gun doesnt look like a 2 face n
Post Merge: July 03, 2009, 01:51:35 AM

You're still not resizing him properly, he's still miscolored, the hands still don't look right, and he shouldn't have Cable's space gun.

Sorry man, but this shouldn't take multiple tries if you're at an appropriate skill level to WIP it. Sit this one out.

Be patient dude thats uncalled for. Help teach, drop the ego

[The King Sic-1™]

the gun doesnt look like a 2 face n
Post Merge: July 03, 2009, 01:51:35 AMBe patient dude thats uncalled for. Help teach, drop the ego

i don't see it as ego... he is just pointing out what a lot of people would like to say... is it nice? maybe not... sometimes the best way to help is to tell them the truth.

[catbat74]

for a hyper move...a giant coin falling down on the opponent, a helper move could be the twin ganster bros that was in the batman animated series

[A New Challenger]

It's not an ego issue. This is a simple design, purposefully such that a new creator could learn with it. Gen here is chomping at the bit to get a green light from us to WIP this... and he's not grasping the basics of the design.

People forget that learning to edit comes before trying a WIP. The things he's doing wrong show a lack of editing fundamentals. That's all.

[Alexziq]

i don't see it as ego... he is just pointing out what a lot of people would like to say... is it nice? maybe not... sometimes the best way to help is to tell them the truth.

Telling people to quit might be the way some of you guys think, but I just dont feel that way. His work has improved in the last couple days. I think being nice, and offerning advice is a better way, but thats me. If youre creator you should lead the way, teach and mentor.
Post Merge: July 03, 2009, 08:32:08 AM

It's not an ego issue. This is a simple design, purposefully such that a new creator could learn with it. Gen here is chomping at the bit to get a green light from us to WIP this... and he's not grasping the basics of the design.

People forget that learning to edit comes before trying a WIP. The things he's doing wrong show a lack of editing fundamentals. That's all.

Look his inital attempts, he's progressed in the last day. Not everybody is going to get your advice in 3 hours. The time you spent telling him to quit, could have been used to offer some advice. If after a week or 2 if he didnt get it, then I could understand moving the topic to a discussion, or graphic arts but not quit.


I'm not looking for an argument though, so Genziroz if you come decide to sit this one out, come over to CVG united on our Bat project, and I'm sure some of the up and coming spriters will be glad to help you with your design

[Black Ops20]

The only reason he told him to sit this one out was because he needs to learn how to edit sprites before taking on a W.I.P.You might not like what he said but its the truth and its honest feedback and i agree 100%.You know how long it takes to make W.I.P's and at the rate of his spriting he might have of problems later down the road.

[juelz aka wolfi]

ok ideas
not sure if these are gud but what ever comes out of my mind

1) flips coin and you see either heads or tails (shoot them or rush and combo them)
2) joker helper
3) machine gun hyper
4) acid throw
5) knife attack
6) poisonous gas/spray
7) rocket launcher hyper
8 ) intro wiv racheal dawes
9) throw coin attack
10) shot gun special