Archangel

[tremainekr]

can someone pm me his sprites maybe... i can think of some ideas for moves and hypers

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can someone pm me his sprites maybe... i can think of some ideas for moves and hypers

DOWNLOAD THE CHARACTER AND USE FIGHTER FACTORY. 

Yeah that's what i suggested a few pages ago. Makes sense to me too.
I have an idea for a grap hyper i'll make a concept later.
And about the grab special why not make him grab the opponent, the fly close to the ground (so basically raming the opponent head in the ground) ?
A four hoursemen would cool but i don't even remember what they looked like.
Anyway okay i'll try to see how the sprites could be improved on the shading part (i think the wings and violet part of the outfit could use more colors, and the head a little more definition). Jason t'occupes des coups de pieds ?

i will need you to give me a solid new design so i can mimic your style. but you know it.   . i wil do them right after.
and i have to finish some things on a havok character for a nice guy first 

[ZVitor]

hey Z, dont foget my PM request.....
we need that for the party

[Z999]

I got your pm request Zvitor (just forgot to answer, like i often do), will be done no problem 
Post Merge: April 23, 2009, 04:02:30 PMThat would be the idea :

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[MuηkyMØÜf]

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  Not that the first sprite is bad, but damn thats an improvement

[SOS_1_bros]

One thing I would like to say is Zujin you should definately analyze what they have added and done to your character, i'm no coder but I can pick up a few things when looking at some of the updates compared to the older one. This will definately help you become a much better creator in the future, IMO anyway hey I might be wrong

 

your definitely right we'll try to analyze what they've done thanks men


Post Merge: April 23, 2009, 08:56:54 PM

I got your pm request Zvitor (just forgot to answer, like i often do), will be done no problem 
Post Merge: April 23, 2009, 04:02:30 PMThat would be the idea :

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nice... very nice men.. definitely  great improvement..

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I THINK I have the perfect design for the wings:

[warecus]

if anyone was making horsemen I will start it out you can use it if you want, just something I wipped up real quick.  Just need to add the horse or whatver he rides.  I just needed a  break from polaris.  I know jason todd or z666 could improve this sprite he's already in riding position

[Acey]

You guys are doing great work here! I took another look at the wings, since they are Metal and not fexible to bend in more than 1 direction at a time:



So in straightening the wings a bit you get more of a Metal feel, the shading itself is going great, I like the large contrast of shades with enough gradient in between the two.

Also, darkening the costume helps to hide any gradient deficiencies so I suggest that it stay lighter while in the wip state so errors won't get hidden then darken it with the palettes.

Another item I saw is consistent lines. When you do a curved line the number of pixels always need to be increasing or decreasing (like the example on the left.) When they're not it tends to looks sloppy (example on the right) and I see this problem happening in the wings.



Here is a quick mock up of what I'd suggest to do.


Also, I thought I'd do a mock up of the wings. This shows the 4 parts, two big wings and two small wings. Obvious this can easily be deviated from, especially in the hypers.

[Weapon x program]

i have to disagree acey, because marvel always the wings like this:

they are supposed to be razor blades not wings anymore even when he flies:

[catbat74]

there is an Archangel sprite in Alucard's Storm that has the wings done correctly, I believe he is a striker for her

[fredgerd]

Here is a quick mock up of what I'd suggest to do.

I like this look. much improved.

[Weapon x program]

seems like the wings are changing with the different pencillers. 
that s true my alucard friend did a great job on his edits:

[warecus]

maybe instead of giving the wings a feathered look, give them the angular look or razor blade look like in the comics and have them morph when he attacks.  kind like he does now, which means a lot more transistions to give the wings a shifting plate look.  I don't know if I said that right

[Z999]

I personally like acey's wing, at least until womeone wants to take care of the wings in a style closer to alucard's ^^
By the way please you used the old revamped sprite guys 

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battle for the wings 

[Acey]

i have to disagree acey, because marvel always the wings like this:...
they are supposed to be razor blades not wings anymore even when he flies:...

Hmm, I don't see how those pics are different from what I said, there are still 4 sets of wing like razor blades. To add even more detail to the conversation, these blades can shrink or grow as necessary and each "blade" can be separate (like in the back view) or the can all be mashed together (like in the side view)

I like this 3d representation

[Z999]

Well anyway i'll take care of updating/cleaning the body shading and heads and leave the wings for whoever feel likes doing these.
No battle for the wings for me ^^

(oh and warecus, those sprites will sure be usefull i think, they are nice ^^)

[Acey]

With these wings it's one sharp battle.

[Jelux Da Casual]

With these wings it's one sharp battle.

I C what U did there.

[Bowasiel]

wow alucard wings are too  good but acey did a good job in her wings  both are good

[Snakebyte]

Speaking solely as a comic reader, Archangel's wings do not bend vertically, only horizontally. As in... They fold in around his body and flex back out, but they cannot fold upward or downward. So the first wings were inaccurate in that respect, BUT they don't have to be entirely rigid either.

I'm not trying to tell any of you what to do, just inform you about the source. Hope it helped. ^^

In my opinion Acey's wings look better than the previous ones, but I think the 'feathers' should be closer together, less divided, more solid. If you modify JASONTODD's connected wing bottoms with Acey's straight feathers, you would achieve perfection! But feel free to completely and utterly ignore me. XD

[MuηkyMØÜf]

It can go either way with the wings because marvel obviously changes it by each issue, cell, series or whatever.

[Snakebyte]

The first pic there is either fanart or just really, really bad art.

The second, he's not 'Archangel' in... He has feather wings there. The metal wings refeathered eventually.

The third is not Archangel at ALL. It's Starhawk, a different character entirely. o_o

As I said, I've read every X-Men comic ever printed. Take my word for it: Razor wings = straight.

EDIT: The above post was edited with more pictures.

First/Third: New and fine.

Second: Fanart/Bad

Fourth: Angel, Featherwings

Fifth: Starhawk, not Angel.

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found this edit on esnips but they don t say who the author is:

that s the look the wings should have it s not as difficult to do after some training.