Why is esnips hated by the mugen Community

[louis]

Just worndering why esnips is hated by the mugen community it is a good place to get mugen characters

[xPreatorianx]

because it is considered a warehouse and 95% of the creators did not give permission for those people to upload their works of art to that site. I agree tho it is a good site  but its still not accepted at all in the mugen community because the creators did not give permission.

[O Ilusionista]

I speak for me:

I don't care if my works are there, as long they keep my readme files, its okay. Even I download chars from there, hehehe.

[JDubbs]

are ppl taking characters from the creators websites and uploading it to this website?

[O Ilusionista]

yes. Try searching for MUGEN and you will see. Even rare chars are there.

[Tenspeed]

I don't see anything wrong with esnips. any character that I've ever gotten from there had it's readme and whatnot in place, and was unedited unless otherwise specified. uploading to esnips is no different than uploading to megaupload or rapidshare (which seems to be the preferred site for most mugen creators), yet I hear nobody talk negatively about those two.

I could understand this if most creators had their content up on their own site, with payed ads and whatnot, because then uploading a character to esnips would cheat them out of money, but most creators have free pages, like tripod or geocities or something.

I understand the part about someone being able to edit a character, claim it as their own, and upload it, but the same thing could be done with megaupload or a similar site. the same could be said of most warehouses when you get right down to the nitty gritty, unless said warehouser is selling the characters or something.

so I guess in closing, the problem should lie with the editing and taking credit for the character, not the distribution.

[Tenspeed]

also, congrats on finishing elecman and anita, ilu.

[greatmuta2]

I don't see anything wrong with esnips. any character that I've ever gotten from there had it's readme and whatnot in place, and was unedited unless otherwise specified. uploading to esnips is no different than uploading to megaupload or rapidshare (which seems to be the preferred site for most mugen creators), yet I hear nobody talk negatively about those two.

I could understand this if most creators had their content up on their own site, with payed ads and whatnot, because then uploading a character to esnips would cheat them out of money, but most creators have free pages, like tripod or geocities or something.

I understand the part about someone being able to edit a character, claim it as their own, and upload it, but the same thing could be done with megaupload or a similar site. the same could be said of most warehouses when you get right down to the nitty gritty, unless said warehouser is selling the characters or something.

so I guess in closing, the problem should lie with the editing and taking credit for the character, not the distribution.

very very well said

[JDubbs]

Im no mugen creator or anything, but it seems like ppl shouldnt be mad at esnips, but rather the people who put the files up on esnips if your going to be mad at anyone. but in all honesty, it saves the trouble knowing that there's a central place to find all of the characters instead of having to go through everyone's site just to be redirected from page to page (sometimes not even in english) just to find one character or stage.

[greatmuta2]

but the only problem i have is theres to many out of date versions and in all honesty i believe if the NO DIRECT LINKS rule wasnt around thered be less wharehouses cause of the chars i want are on a japenese site but its impossible to navigate so im forced to go look for it at esnips

[Vault-tec Rep Høröúßøí]

but the only problem i have is theres to many out of date versions and in all honesty i believe if the NO DIRECT LINKS rule wasnt around thered be less wharehouses cause of the chars i want are on a japenese site but its impossible to navigate so im forced to go look for it at esnips

same here... hell I'm trying to get that oichi that got released 

[O Ilusionista]

also, congrats on finishing elecman and anita, ilu.

thanx pal.

[Random Regular]

same here... hell I'm trying to get that oichi that got released 

Same here
But when I get her I will send it to you.

warehousers
Well in all those 8 years I almost never used esnips.
I just use the ultimate warehouse: Google
Esnips is a nice place to find characters but some are way too outdated or edited.
I am not so lazy to give up if a character site is in another language I just keep looking...

If you use esnips use it in secrecy 

[Lightblackheart]

Warehouse,i hate em

And BTW,i don't use Esnips to donwload chars or stages,never 

[greatmuta2]

oh i know i happened to read a topic from last year where you did something illegal to a wharehouse

[Lightblackheart]

oh i know i happened to read a topic from last year where you did something illegal to a wharehouse

yeah!!! and I am proud of it

[greatmuta2]

yeah!!! and I am proud of it

well there is one thing id like to say about this is that what if a newbie went to the site you did the illegal thing to and got the illegal thing you left on the site and decided that hes going to quit mugen cause we all know newbies all go to whare houses at first are you proud of that also what if the person was good at making sprites or good at coding stuff but well never know

[Vault-tec Rep Høröúßøí]

O_o what he do?.... burn it down?... oh, wait wrong type of warehouse  

[O Ilusionista]

yeah!!! and I am proud of it

This isn't something you should be proud of.

[Lightblackheart]

well there is one thing id like to say about this is that what if a newbie went to the site you did the illegal thing to and got the illegal thing you left on the site and decided that hes going to quit mugen cause we all know newbies all go to whare houses at first are you proud of that also what if the person was good at making sprites or good at coding stuff but well never know

it was not that man.I just uploaded tons and tons of KFMs and i only changed their names........or a virus....well i just have to remember well  

[Vault-tec Rep Høröúßøí]

it was not that man.I just uploaded tons and tons of KFMs and i only changed their names........

that would be... kinda funny 

[greatmuta2]

that would be... kinda funny 

no that dos sound funny but thats not what he gloated about in the thread im talking about

[DARKTALBAIN]

I am a creator & I have nothing against warehouses or esnips . I have actually sent Team Spoiler's creations to guys on esnips or at warehouses . They are going to get there anyway , I might as well make sure the have the most recent version . People know who makes things in this community . It's a small community , everyone knew " DARKTALBAIN " made Hobgoblin . Esnips & warehouses I think have helped get my creation on more people's hard drives . Because that's why I do this to begin with , I want as many people to enjoy a character I made , that's wants it . Besides , most warehouses or esnips guys do not want to take credit for the character , they just want to have it & let other people have it .

Now if one of my characters is on a warehouse or esnips before I release it . That kind of is an issue to me .

[Superjoker]

c most ppl dont understand or they 4get...

MUGEN will always b like this, warehouses, leechers n ppl who just 'steal'

but remember we r in a way stealin from capcom, snk, etc in the beginin.
dats y theres a readme file

its not like u can 'steal' the beast, or thor, or lobo n so on, every1 knows who made them n every1 knows who made the bases n games to start off wit

u cant prevent somethin dat is FREE from being.... u guessed it FREE

[Doctor Crow]

because it is considered a warehouse and 95% of the creators did not give permission for those people to upload their works of art to that site. I agree tho it is a good site  but its still not accepted at all in the mugen community because the creators did not give permission.

Oh well.  Cry about it and move on.