MUGEN GUILD GONE WILD!!!!!!!!!!

[Jay_High19]

I disagree with the illegally downloaded music and movies opinion. Mugen creators don't get paid for their work. They are however rewarded with respect, which Guild's new rules have taken from them.

[SdotThaDon]

I disagree with the illegally downloaded music and movies opinion. Mugen creators don't get paid for their work. They are however rewarded with respect, which Guild's new rules have taken from them.

Does internet respect really matter this much to people? :-\ With this we are comparing a hobby with actual ways to make a living.

[Jay_High19]

I disagree with the illegally downloaded music and movies opinion. Mugen creators don't get paid for their work. They are however rewarded with respect, which Guild's new rules have taken from them.

Does internet respect really matter this much to people? :-\ With this we are comparing a hobby with actual ways to make a living.

I'm not saying quit your day-job to make Mugen chars. I'd rather have a paycheck than a million strangers respect. I'm just saying they spent hard work to make a char for you to enjoy, so the least you could do is respect their wishes. Not say "all work is open-source and request whatever you want, even if the creator asked not to."

[OrwellianDawn]

The illegal sharing of music files and roms is far more insidious than warehousing M.U.G.E.N creations, any way you slice it.

You're free to argue this until the cows come home, but my foot is planted firmly into the ground.

[kamekaze]

i agree with jay, i'd love to get payed for what i do but since i dont respect is all i get for my hard work. and if i say i dont want my stuff open sourced its only fair that my wishes are respected(especially for the chars i rip on my own)

[nick09]

i agree with jay, i'd love to get payed for what i do but since i dont respect is all i get for my hard work. and if i say i dont want my stuff open sourced its only fair that my wishes are respected(especially for the chars i rip on my own)

i agree with both of ya.

[Excursion]

The illegal sharing of music files and roms is far more insidious than warehousing M.U.G.E.N creations, any way you slice it.

You're free to argue this until the cows come home, but my foot is planted firmly into the ground.

No one is trying to convince you otherwise and if you are dead set in your opinions, you are entitled to them, but in the very end, at least here at Infinity, you will respect the rules and follow the guidelines set. Your stance as well as others have been discussed and argued for the last 7 years across a slew of forums and discussion boards. What has always prevailed are the rules set in whatever forum you discuss it on. So like you said, "You're free to argue this until the cows come home, but Infinity's foot is planted firmly into the ground."

[dennis872005]

The illegal sharing of music files and roms is far more insidious than warehousing M.U.G.E.N creations, any way you slice it.

You're free to argue this until the cows come home, but my foot is planted firmly into the ground.

No one is trying to convince you otherwise and if you are dead set in your opinions, you are entitled to them, but in the very end, at least here at Infinity, you will respect the rules and follow the guidelines set. Your stance as well as others have been discussed and argued for the last 7 years across a slew of forums and discussion boards. What has always prevailed are the rules set in whatever forum you discuss it on. So like you said, "You're free to argue this until the cows come home, but Infinity's foot is planted firmly into the ground."

Not to be rude but if  that was true we would have stayed the way we were and not let ourselves be influenced by kfm.

[Excursion]

In the end, KFM proves to be a great ally of Infinity, even after all our bashing of him for MONTHS. He was the 1st person we contacted for help when we tried to suppress the Bulldog leak and in turn we have seen him change his stance on us. Besides the sendspacing what else DRASTICALLY changed Infinity that makes you think we were "influenced" by him? If we made ammends with Magus and DCvM fully people would think we were in cahoots with Magus when in reality, Infinity was just tired of the drama and bickering and fighting. My point is, that you think we should've stayed the same? This place would be non-stop drama like the Guild right now.

[Erikson]

this doesn't really metter ;P but if creators make everything opensource, i can tell you that we'll see a billion of new and GOOD chars being made, but seems like this isn't gonna happen, so...

[Jay_High19]

if creators make everything opensource, i can tell you that we'll see a billion of new and GOOD chars being made, but seems like this isn't gonna happen, so...

It did happen. That's part of the Guild's new rules. Stolen is the new original this fall.

[dennis872005]

In the end, KFM proves to be a great ally of Infinity, even after all our bashing of him for MONTHS. He was the 1st person we contacted for help when we tried to suppress the Bulldog leak and in turn we have seen him change his stance on us. Besides the sendspacing what else DRASTICALLY changed Infinity that makes you think we were "influenced" by him? If we made ammends with Magus and DCvM fully people would think we were in cahoots with Magus when in reality, Infinity was just tired of the drama and bickering and fighting. My point is, that you think we should've stayed the same? This place would be non-stop drama like the Guild right now.

I guess you are right, for a while there was way too much drama.The only thing that bothers me now is that so many of ours users go on guild and bash people, I mean most of us were leechers at one time. Just look at JayHIgh19 avatar and sig, thats to much animosity toward other people. I thought we were gonna stop bashing of other forums.

[Jay_High19]

In the end, KFM proves to be a great ally of Infinity, even after all our bashing of him for MONTHS. He was the 1st person we contacted for help when we tried to suppress the Bulldog leak and in turn we have seen him change his stance on us. Besides the sendspacing what else DRASTICALLY changed Infinity that makes you think we were "influenced" by him? If we made ammends with Magus and DCvM fully people would think we were in cahoots with Magus when in reality, Infinity was just tired of the drama and bickering and fighting. My point is, that you think we should've stayed the same? This place would be non-stop drama like the Guild right now.

I guess you are right, for a while there was way too much drama.The only thing that bothers me now is that so many of ours users go on guild and bash people, I mean most of us were leechers at one time. Just look at JayHIgh19 avatar and sig, thats to much animosity toward other people. I thought we were gonna stop bashing of other forums.

I have to disagree again. I don't think most were leechers at one time. I think most have requested things at one point but leechers, no. And if you really find my sig and avatar that offensive than I have no problem changing it. I was actually going to but rbbt780 hasn't responded to my new sig request.

[Erikson]

if creators make everything opensource, i can tell you that we'll see a billion of new and GOOD chars being made, but seems like this isn't gonna happen, so...

It did happen. That's part of the Guild's new rules. Stolen is the new original this fall.

Stealing is wrong, in my point of view, but if someone make an opensource char, the less people can do, is at last   credit em and link to their site ;\

[Excursion]

In the end, KFM proves to be a great ally of Infinity, even after all our bashing of him for MONTHS. He was the 1st person we contacted for help when we tried to suppress the Bulldog leak and in turn we have seen him change his stance on us. Besides the sendspacing what else DRASTICALLY changed Infinity that makes you think we were "influenced" by him? If we made ammends with Magus and DCvM fully people would think we were in cahoots with Magus when in reality, Infinity was just tired of the drama and bickering and fighting. My point is, that you think we should've stayed the same? This place would be non-stop drama like the Guild right now.

I guess you are right, for a while there was way too much drama.The only thing that bothers me now is that so many of ours users go on guild and bash people, I mean most of us were leechers at one time. Just look at JayHIgh19 avatar and sig, thats to much animosity toward other people. I thought we were gonna stop bashing of other forums.

Feel free to report a link to a site where members here are actually bashing other forums. If they are fingered as being from Infinity or if they have a rank of some sort here besides the usual Lurker/Initiate/Forum Member they will lose their rank standings here. Although some of you may not care about these titles (and so you shouldn't) some people take pride in them, and losing them because of something stupid like that is like a kick in the balls... but... you can't expect everyone to be an angel beyond Infinity. I can only really control what goes on in here at Infinity, not elsewhere.

[OrwellianDawn]

In the end, KFM proves to be a great ally of Infinity, even after all our bashing of him for MONTHS. He was the 1st person we contacted for help when we tried to suppress the Bulldog leak and in turn we have seen him change his stance on us. Besides the sendspacing what else DRASTICALLY changed Infinity that makes you think we were "influenced" by him? If we made ammends with Magus and DCvM fully people would think we were in cahoots with Magus when in reality, Infinity was just tired of the drama and bickering and fighting. My point is, that you think we should've stayed the same? This place would be non-stop drama like the Guild right now.

Now this I can agree with. Kung Fu Man isn't the sole source of the problems currently plaguing us.

[SdotThaDon]

No he's not the source of the problem, nor is he the solution. I only stated that what dennis said had merit, not that I totally agree with his stance. It is possible to have different opinions but both be correct. Infinity doesn't need change, period. I come here because I feel its the best mugen board.

[A!]

mugen guild is so funny

[Marancv]

The classic great creators eon has, at least, parcially ended.

i mean..PotS....opensource??? just never think was gonna happen

this isnt soo bad, theres some good things that will came up, parting from mugen to be a FREE software (until now..), and all the components as image,sound or even moves of the characters are Owned by Capcom, SNK and the respective companies..but also will be  a lot of CRAPy creations (or so..)that will flood the community.
but in the other hand there MUST be boundries n some kinda mugen community ethics.
thats what i publicly applause to IMT. who knows.. maybe Infinity will be the Next Eon Guide Line in the mugen community due to this.

and if PotS went opensource...ill release Violent Ryu. thats the best against warehouses. but ill do it HERE. is that ok with mods? if isnt, then ill just DONT do it.

[Burger King]

Open Source P.O.T.S? Now there's going to be more unoriginal crap. Now i completely disagree with the guild.

[Excursion]

If P.o.t.S. went open source and says you an use his coding/sprites/sounds as long as you credit him, then you are free to release him here with that stipulation that you credit him in your readme. Thats what, a whole 2 minutes? 

[Error Macro]

P.o.t.S stuff is open source?!?!?!

I need proof!!!

[SirAnzai]

If P.o.t.S. went open source and says you an use his coding/sprites/sounds as long as you credit him, then you are free to release him here with that stipulation that you credit him in your readme. Thats what, a whole 2 minutes? 

To the leechers though that's 2 minutes too long

[Marancv]

in fact, in my readme PotS HAS ALWAYS BEEN CREDITED. and those who have my Ryu knows it

[Burger King]

If P.o.t.S. went open source and says you an use his coding/sprites/sounds as long as you credit him, then you are free to release him here with that stipulation that you credit him in your readme. Thats what, a whole 2 minutes? 

Exactly, sometimes i wonder if i should care anymore.