Venom:Mac Gargan WIP

[Toxin]

Forum Contest!!!!!
Hey guys and gals. As you may or may not know Useless and I have been working on a Venom Mac Gargan for Marvel the Outsiders for some time now. We decided that it would be really cool to set up a contest for one of two moves we have left. We did have some ideas in mind but then we decided that it would be more fun to have a contest. This way some of the fans and friends will get the opportunity to contribute to this project. So, please join in.
 
The two moves up for grabs are a jumping weak punch of which we would like to see Venom biting such as this.


Or a crouching weak kick of which we would like to see his foot morphing into a stinger for a stinging move such as this:

 These animations you can use as guides to what we are looking for. These are suggestions though of what we would like to see but if you have a different idea, that goes along with the character, and that Wows us, then we might incorporate that too. So, get those creative juices flowing. We will have the contest open for an indefinite time or until we see something that really catches our attention. The extra time will give the less experienced sprites a shoot and will also give those of us with little time to spare, the opportunity to contribute. Please get in what you can in as soon as possible though.

At this link you will find three sprites sheets that have all the Venom bodies recolored to our colors. Two we compiled ourselves.
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Here is a direct link to a Sabertooth Spritesheet that we are also using but do not have recolored. Sprite Database

Here is a link to Mugen china were you can find Neo Dio. He has served as inpiration many times in the past. Mugen China:Neo Dio

Here are the colors for the Skin, slime, and teeth. Our sheets only contain the skin recolored. The eye and spider colors are the same but may vary darker/lighter as needed.

 
And if you can't sprite to save your life then maybe you can help by offering up suggestions.
 
Also, to all of you who consider yourselves killer spriters "Show Us What You Got!!!" If you have any ?'s or if you are going to participate please post so that we know. Thanks and Good Luck.

[aPoCaLyPsE]

Looks interesting enough, so I'll start things off. It's still rough (v0.2) but I wanna play with it's a little more to get rid of some of that jerk and add a little more flow (v0.3).

Kick Version: 0.2


Whattcha think fams?

-"aPoC."

[DARKTALBAIN]

Looks interesting enough, so I'll start things off. It's still rough (v0.2) but I wanna play with it's a little more to get rid of some of that jerk and add a little more flow (v0.3).

Kick Version: 0.2


Whattcha think fams?

-"aPoC."

Great idea . I think that looks pretty sweet ! Did you use Q-Bee's stinger ?

[aPoCaLyPsE]

Great idea . I think that looks pretty sweet ! Did you use Q-Bee's stinger ?

Freehand actaully. MsPaint all the way baby! 

-"aPoC."

[SPOOKY77]

Ill take a stab at the jumping weak punch....my idea is Macs fist will turn into set of teeth to bite...how does that sound? And...the rapid share file isnt there

[Toxin]

@ Apoc. First of all thanks. Secondly, when I first saw your animation it made me think of these sprites and how they might work too. If you like it, you could cut on the spriting by using the first sprite in the original instead of the first two of these. Of couse, this is really rough.



@Spooky Great to hear it. I fixed the link.

To make it fair, I will offer up suggestions on anyone who post an animation to make it fair. You should make the animation your own.

Oh, here is the color swap for Saber just in case anyone is thinking of using his sprites.

[aPoCaLyPsE]

@ Apoc. First of all thanks. Secondly, when I first saw your animation it made me think of these sprites and how they might work too. If you like it, you could cut on the spriting by using the first sprite in the original instead of the first two of these. Of couse, this is really rough.

No prob! Saving now... I see what I can mix up. 

[Acey]

Apoc, it's like he's the ace in the hole. 

[SPOOKY77]

Hey Toxin...here are a few (alpha version ) sprites I did tonight...I just wanted to see what you thought about this move...when its done venoms head will come down farther and bite the other player before returning to its body all in mid air...I havent drawn the right spider on macs chest yet and there are some color issues but you can get my concept...

[aPoCaLyPsE]

@ Apoc. First of all thanks. Secondly, when I first saw your animation it made me think of these sprites and how they might work too. If you like it, you could cut on the spriting by using the first sprite in the original instead of the first two of these. Of couse, this is really rough.

No prob! Saving now... I see what I can mix up.

Still mixing. I worked 12+ hours on friday and 10 hours thursday and today(sat.). I can't wait for my 5 day weekend to hit..

-"aPoC."

[SPOOKY77]

Actually..forget my first idea ..here is a rough animation of my final concept..I need to add maybe 2 more sprites to make it flow better but its getting close...

Watcha think?

[Toxin]

Sorry I missed your ideas bro.Like I mentioned in the detailed pm it shows lots of promise. 

Apoc, it's like he's the ace in the hole. 

 

[Useless]

Spook, your latest edit was a fine effort but we Toxin and I are looking to give this Venom the least possible look alikes with the Capcom Venom, so we can't have a move that is exactly the other Venom's move only with an edited logo and eyes and a tail. Be creative, you can have any part of his body morph into a bite, from his hands to the tip of his tail, just don't use the legs, or we would have to call it a kick instead of a punch.

[Tenspeed]

Hey Toxin...here are a few (alpha version ) sprites I did tonight...I just wanted to see what you thought about this move...when its done venoms head will come down farther and bite the other player before returning to its body all in mid air...I havent drawn the right spider on macs chest yet and there are some color issues but you can get my concept...

I think this one has promise personally. you could have him lean forward, maybe flip after the bite.

[SPOOKY77]

Spook, your latest edit was a fine effort but we Toxin and I are looking to give this Venom the least possible look alikes with the Capcom Venom, so we can't have a move that is exactly the other Venom's move only with an edited logo and eyes and a tail. Be creative, you can have any part of his body morph into a bite, from his hands to the tip of his tail, just don't use the legs, or we would have to call it a kick instead of a punch.

Hey Useless...I told Toxin I wasn't really sure about using the bits from the old venom I just wanted to see how they turned out ...I do like the body positioning of the second anim so it will be no big deal for me to edit that into something frankensprited or hand drawn...thanks for the comments too man....Ill post something new soon

Hey Toxin...here are a few (alpha version ) sprites I did tonight...I just wanted to see what you thought about this move...when its done venoms head will come down farther and bite the other player before returning to its body all in mid air...I havent drawn the right spider on macs chest yet and there are some color issues but you can get my concept...

I think this one has promise personally. you could have him lean forward, maybe flip after the bite.

Thanks Tenspeed...What do you guys think about this?

[Lasher]

Looks pretty cool to me.  Just, you have to make it mac gargans face.

[Useless]

Hi everybody, a lot of time has gone by and we have some news:

Mac has a new coder: Apocalypse

Toxin and I have done progress on many moves, some of them not yet coded due to Apoc's busy agenda with real life and also MUGEN stuff. Only a couple of basics missing, most specials done and a couple of hypers in the works



Here's a video showing an early version Apoc put together with some of the new basics not included in Grave's version and some of the old ones plus a pallette I find in every sense of the word 'creepy'.

It's still a very early version and there's obviously lots to be done. Just know that we continue working on him and now with Apoc's help we hope to be able to show progress videos more oftenly

Enjoy as far as you can

We'll be back with more news

Useless out

[.Batzarro.]

Really great looking stuff here. Loving everything I'm seeing and this feels more like the way Venom should of originally fought.

BTW, did I see two different stances for him.? Different modes perhaps.?

[Serious Cat]

Wow. I can't really say anything to help except that the tail still doesn't look quite right in-game. I think it's the shading, but the shading on something like that is extremely hard to do.

I like the Anti-Venom palette, tho. It looks really good!

[Weapon x program]

IMPRESSIVE ANTI VENOM PALETTE 

[deadmangunner]

WOW that looks really good so far. One question though what is that song you used for the video cause it sounds really good.

[DARKTALBAIN]

Anti Venom palette

Love it 

[Useless]

Thanks guys. A couple of comments:

The two stances are two versions, the new one vs the old one. Just to show what chenged between one and the other

So far Toxin and I don't find anything wrong with the tail, but from the very start we knew people were going to go 50-50 on liking the tail so it's understandable. As for the being in-game the tail is going to be key in many attacks

I advise whenever you hear something you like and want to know the name of the song or artist you should pay close attention to one or two phrases from the song and google: lyrics + part of the lyrics you understood. The name of the song is Inner Sanctuary by the way and it's form the album Nuclear Blast All Stars

The Anti Venom pallette credit goes fully to Apocalypse, I merely suggested it but he made it happen (I don't know how to build pallettes)

[aPoCaLyPsE]

  Glad to see you guys went ahead and placed a video up.

I do apologize again, as I was telling the rest of the family, my turn around time was expected to be early 2009, and I've kinda got a handle on things again. I took these back in mid december but had no internet to upload em.



As noted "Mac" is still early so expect more news to come. 

-"aPoC."

[KenFan9276 - Member of CROM]

Glad to see you guys went ahead and placed a video up.

I do apologize again, as I was telling the rest of the family, my turn around time was expected to be early 2009, and I've kinda got a handle on things again. I took these back in mid december but had no internet to upload em.



As noted "Mac" is still early so expect more news to come. 

-"aPoC."

Is there a link on Mediafire or Rapidshare?