Help with persuasion... Stupid problem I can't solve.

[Ryu # 20]

In a nutshell: I've been dreaming of having a PS2 for about 8 years (I KNOW THERE'S XBOX 360, PS3 AND WII, but I'VE WANTED IT SINCE I WAS 12), but my family doesn't let me buy it (even with my own money). Can't go buy it without them finding out (too much money not for them to realize). Any solutions? I'm going mad!!!

[The Great World Emperor]

Are you planning to buy it with cash or another form of payment?

[Ryu # 20]

I'm not planning anything. Remember I have to get this problem solved yet . But the answer would be cash.

[The Notic]

I'm not planning anything. Remember I have to get this problem solved yet . But the answer would be cash.

What's the matter with you, you're 19, if you have your own money, buy whatever the hell you want!

[Ryu # 20]

I'm not planning anything. Remember I have to get this problem solved yet . But the answer would be cash.

What's the matter with you, you're 19, if you have your own money, buy whatever the hell you want!

Had it been so easy for me, I would have already and wouldn't be asking here right?

[The Notic]

I'm not planning anything. Remember I have to get this problem solved yet . But the answer would be cash.

What's the matter with you, you're 19, if you have your own money, buy whatever the hell you want!

Had it been so easy for me, I would have already and wouldn't be asking here right?

It is so easy, your money, do what you want, I don't see why parents would deprive a grown man of a PS2 when he has his own money, ! Buy it behind their backs, if they find out, I'm sure they'll just deal with it!

[Ryu # 20]

Yes, it would be easy in theory. But I can't. Period.

Why? I don't know. They wouldn't allow me. We're a strange family I know.

Buying it behind their backs:

I can't. Go back to my first post. There's no way I'm getting away with it. They're capable of getting rid of it.

[The Great World Emperor]

Yes, it would be easy in theory. But I can't. Period.

Why? I don't know. They wouldn't allow me. We're a strange family I know.

Buying it behind their backs:

I can't. Go back to my first post. There's no way I'm getting away with it. They're capable of getting rid of it.

How would they get rid of it? If they made you go back and get a refund that would make sense but if they threw it away there wouldn't really be a point, would there?

[Ryu # 20]

I don't think they would make me get a refund. The store wouldn't accept it. That's why I thought of "getting rid of it".

[That Mugen Guy]

Ok... so basically what you're saying here... is that you're 19, and your parents won't let you purchase what they don't want you to get... So... what... did you get D's when you were in high school or something?? (no offense, just curious)

Basically.. just go out and buy it.. if they throw it out.. sue them...
If they throw an eviction notice at you (which must be 3 months prior to the eviction), then just save up a lot of money, and move out.. I don't understand why you haven't done that already, anyways..

I think u might be a lil to serious there ATICE, I wouldn't wanna get thrown out over a PS2
but Ryu I think u should just give up until u get a place of ur own, or buy the PS2 and take the punishment give the talk that ur old enough after u already brought the system

[KPT25]

well...i had a similar situation before because of a cellphone...i had enough money to buy it,but my dad wouldn`t let me because "in his opinion",it wasn`t necessary,and to wait until i get a job
After all,i got a job,my own cell and even a new PC...meaning:get a job and they will have no reason to not letting you...

[Angsty Meier Link]

Ryu I can understand how family can be strange like that.

Um... you might try and get an emulator working? Because obviously they let you have a computer? Is it your computer? Or a family computer... PS2 emulators are sketchy at best... so its not the best bet. Idunno man... best advice I have is move out and do whatever your heart desires

Save money man... always save money. That's basically the universal advice that I've been given by all elders.

[Ryu # 20]

O.K. Since I'm overwhelmed by responses I'll have to answer then one by one. Here we go!

ATICE:

"Did you get D's when you were in high school or something? (no offense, just curious)".

Nope, I used to get B's or B+'s mostly, then some A's and once in a while I would get few low grades. And now I'm in college I still have high grades, this term I've failed only one subject out of 7.

Suing them? I don't think things are THAT serious to do that. We're talking about getting a PS2, nothing more.

I can't move out, I've got nowhere to go! Plus, remember: I said this was a STUPID problem. I just want them not to say anything if I get it, that's all.

That Mugen Guy:

You're right, I wouldn't want to get thrown out over a PS2. But I can't go buy it and take the punishment and say I'm old enough, 'cause "that would be no excuse". Trust me on that one.

KPT25:

"well...i had a similar situation before because of a cellphone...i had enough money to buy it,but my dad wouldn`t let me because "in his opinion",it wasn`t necessary,and to wait until i get a job"

You hit the jackpot. That's EXACTLY what happens. I'll get a job next year, but anyways, it's 8 YEARS we're talking about. I'm normally patient but this is too much, isn't it?

Angsty Meier Link:

I've thought about emulation. But requirements are too high (videocard, processor). And I don't think I can upgrade because this is a laptop. It's a good thing it's mine, although my brother steals it from me to play MY own Marvel Ultimate Alliance game.

( He's a f*cking hypocrite, he first says "I don't like videogames" and agrees with my parents but then he comes and says "please let me play Marvel Ultimate Alliance" because his P.C. can't run it. Anyways, it's choppy and laggy as sh*t, but it's playable. And he EVEN says "Marvel characters are stupid", I ask "Then why do you play this game?" and he says "There's ONE exception: Spider-man!")

Besides, whoever has the money to get a computer able to emulate PS2, can surely get a PS2 console.

Moving out: See above.

So that's my story. Any possible solutions?

[Angsty Meier Link]

No man sorry... after what you've said I have nothing for you. Until you can be self reliant your stuck with your situation. Unless you can convince your parents that you should have a PS2.

[Ryu # 20]

Can't convince them. No matter what I do.

And it's not a matter of being self reliant. There's that parents barrier. I'm ashamed myself. But there's nothing I can do. That's why I need help.

[Angsty Meier Link]

Well then there's no reason you should be asking for help here. The answers you seek are already known to you, your just reluctant to accept them. You either buy a PS2 or don't, everything else you already seem to understand. Nobody can help you in this situation but yourself.

[thefisherkings]

Hmm.. why do you parents not want  you to have a ps2?  Can you by other game systems? Anyways, don't listen to any of this defy your parents stuff, none of them is providing for you.  The real world is harsh and I would stay with my parents until I got married or they kick me out or have enough momey to by a house without credit, videogames will still be there when you move out.  I'm a parent and have kids asking me for crap all the time, we only allow one tv in house for example.  People may say your being unfair to your child, but they don't know my story.  Just remember your parents love you none of the rest really care about you,  where just giving advice from our personall exprience not out of true concern.

[eg6gsr]

Yea if your parents tell you no and you still live in their house and off thier money no matter how old you are you listen cause as long as you are not paying for anything you have no say on what goes on in their house...sucks but hey you can always move out then live buy your own rules

[Rygelseid]

um....give money to a friend of yurs and have him buy it?

[Ryu # 20]

Hmm.. why do you parents not want  you to have a ps2?  Can you by other game systems? Anyways, don't listen to any of this defy your parents stuff, none of them is providing for you.  The real world is harsh and I would stay with my parents until I got married or they kick me out or have enough momey to by a house without credit, videogames will still be there when you move out.  I'm a parent and have kids asking me for crap all the time, we only allow one tv in house for example.  People may say your being unfair to your child, but they don't know my story.  Just remember your parents love you none of the rest really care about you,  where just giving advice from our personall exprience not out of true concern.

Exactly. And that's why I'm asking for help other than defying them, 'cause I don't want to do that (not that I could anyways) And I'm getting sh*t thrown at me 'cause nobody really understands.

On to the "other systems" question: They already know there's WII, XBOX 360 and PS3. If they don't let me have a PS2, much less they're gonna consider letting me have any other system. Their reasons? Two. One is that "it's unnecessary". The other is "I'm too old for videogames and should be thinking of other stuff".

um....give money to a friend of yurs and have him buy it?

Not possible. They're not stupid.

[The Notic]

Okay look... It's so easy... You either buy it and just face the consequences! Or you don't... Simple as that!

[Ryu # 20]

Ok.. I think this topic should be closed.. right now.. because obviously you're not listening to what everyone is saying, and this is causing arguments in this topic.. so let's just lock this up right now.. I mean.. come on..

@eg6gsr: You must be stuck in the same situation as Ryu... 

That was uncalled for. Have you read thefisherkings' post? That plus KPT25's in page 1 sum up my situation.

[BigJ]

Is it a money problem? I had a friend who couldn't afford to buy games (even with his own job) cause he had to help support the family.

[Ryu # 20]

Is it a money problem? I had a friend who couldn't afford to buy games (even with his own job) cause he had to help support the family.

Nope. I got the money. They just don't let me use it to get the PS2.

omg.. just close this topic.. There's no point anymore.. you obviously don't want to listen to other people. And no that wasn't uncalled for.. it's called the truth (unless you're talking about the eg6gsr comment I made...).

Listen.. you either buy it or you don't.. I mean.. there is no question here.. You're 19, as well, you can buy what you want.. If you're parents think games are unecessary, then why are you on this forum anyways.. this is a gaming (mainly MUGEN) forum.. not a lolipop forum. 

Just close this topic, already... jeez...

What the hell has that gotta do with anything? I'm a gamer alright. It's just my parents don't want to let me get a PS2. I've gone over the reasons why I'm asking here before, but it looks like you just didn't read. It's not that I don't want to listen to other people. Yes, I know this is stupid. I've read every single comment and at least they're trying to help. It's not THAT simple as "either you buy it or you don't". And people like Angsty Meier Link, eg6sgr and thefisherkings have understood the situation alright but haven't been able to find any solutions. If you agree with them, say it plain and simple but don't throw sh*t at me. Jeez... No need to get mad over such a stupid matter.

[BEATMASTERMIKE]

see if you have any friends that are selling it and buy it off of them thats what i would do if they find out i guess they find out they should get ova it right? can't stay mad at you forever