Author Topic: robin beta 2 (Read 1982 times)

Weapon x program · « **on:** May 21, 2008, 02:30:38 PM »

Here is the second beta from robin, we release him today because he was leaked by accident

so what is new:
1. new stance thanks to excursion
2. now a 6 buttons character
3. so two new attacks

4. new design (belt, abdos, shading on boots, cape,...), a lot of sprites redone.
5. new helpers, beast boy, raven.
6. new intros and endings: batmobile, spoiler, batman, starfire,...
7. new batarangs, smoke bombs,...
8. new sprites

what is missing: some bugs corrected, some helpers, just go in the wip section, you will find them, one hyper and the pallettes.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mxnat5
http://freewebs.com/spidermew

Worksa8 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2008, 02:51:15 PM »

Yes! I've been waiting for this one =3
Great work!

xM.Ξ.†.Λ.L.G.Ξ.Λ.Rx™ · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2008, 03:08:41 PM »

Excellent job man. I have been waiting for the next update on this character.
Also sorry that your creation got leaked.

Jelux Da Casual · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2008, 03:56:27 PM »

Quote from: F.R.3.3.D.O.M. on May 21, 2008, 03:08:41 PM

Excellent job man. I have been waiting for the next update on this character.
Also sorry that your creation got leaked.

Yeah, it's really sad that people just can't wait for stuff. Anyways, sweet updates, looking forward to the finished version.

Aura-Master · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2008, 04:02:35 PM »

lets just hope no drama crap goes on in this topic

aa250 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2008, 04:18:33 PM »

Quote from: G Lux on May 21, 2008, 03:56:27 PM

Quote from: F.R.3.3.D.O.M. on May 21, 2008, 03:08:41 PM
Excellent job man. I have been waiting for the next update on this character.
Also sorry that your creation got leaked.

Yeah, it's really sad that people just can't wait for stuff. Anyways, sweet updates, looking forward to the finished version.

No No you have it all wrong he was accidently leaked and people were trading him so that why we released him, but this aint the finished creation.

Spidercide · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2008, 04:24:53 PM »

No matter the circumstance it's good to have a solid Robin in Mugen.

.Batzarro. · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2008, 05:00:37 PM »

Congrats, JT. Know you put a lot of work into Robin and it shows.

Alexziq · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2008, 05:16:32 PM »

Yes PLEASE keep in mind, I have not recoded, or fixed any bugs since last release. Much will be done when the character is officially released in JULY!

Alexziq · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2008, 05:20:27 PM »

Quote from: Aura-Master on May 21, 2008, 04:02:35 PM

lets just hope no drama crap goes on in this topic

No drama, only sweet azz toasters!

Thats how we roll, everyone likes toast!

Jelux Da Casual · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2008, 05:57:10 PM »

Quote from: Deidara on May 21, 2008, 04:18:33 PM

Quote from: G Lux on May 21, 2008, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: F.R.3.3.D.O.M. on May 21, 2008, 03:08:41 PM
Excellent job man. I have been waiting for the next update on this character.
Also sorry that your creation got leaked.

Yeah, it's really sad that people just can't wait for stuff. Anyways, sweet updates, looking forward to the finished version.

No No you have it all wrong he was accidently leaked and people were trading him so that why we released him, but this aint the finished creation.

I thought that's what we were agreeing with in the first place.

malisiousjoe · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:48:13 PM »

Nice update beta

.

Excursion · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:30:47 PM »

Feedback:

- His punches do not combo.
- His HK is very intermittent. It connects sometimes and other times it does not.
- CLSN boxes need an over haul. You should take a look at the CLSN tutorial by Kitsune Sniper and Duece hosted at Vinny J's site here: http://vincej.piiym-net.com/kof-debug-clsn-tutorial-by-kitsune-sniper-deuce/ It's a tutorial for specifically KOF but it will help you nonetheless understand the importance of CLSN box alignments.
- Some of the basic attack's (punches and kicks) sprites are misaligned. Usually a good clue that they are not flowing together is the placement of the feet when a character attacks. If the foot jumps around the floor, it means the sprites have not been aligned. This chart is a reference for the required sprites, but the placement of them is basic for the rest of the sprites:

Fighter Factory has a set of guidelines (literally) which can be found under the Show>Guidelines menu within Fighter Factory. Those blue lines are essential when aligning the sprite's feet placement during attacks. They have saved me countless hours of extra aligning. I suggest using them for Robin.
- You are missing a set of required animations (sprite set 5300).
- The dash-back animation needs some work. Either animate it higher, or change it. It is almost out of place as a dash-back move. That's my opinion though... you guys may not really mind it.

- Clean up the rar file. Remove the extra .pcx files and all the backup files (.BAK) and include only the usual required files (readme, sff, cns, air, etc.) if for any reason, to reduce the download size and rename all the files (e.g. act files... hayato.act?) to the same thing... like robin.sff, robin.cns, robin.act, ect.

Once you guys clean this up, then the real feedback about the feel of the character and interaction with other characters can begin. Tweaking is a never ending battle.

Good luck Team Spoiler

Weapon x program · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2008, 07:57:02 PM »

good luck my favorite coder

Alexziq · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2008, 08:04:37 PM »

Quote from: Excursion on May 21, 2008, 07:30:47 PM

Feedback:

- His punches do not combo.
- His HK is very intermittent. It connects sometimes and other times it does not.
- CLSN boxes need an over haul. You should take a look at the CLSN tutorial by Kitsune Sniper and Duece hosted at Vinny J's site here: http://vincej.piiym-net.com/kof-debug-clsn-tutorial-by-kitsune-sniper-deuce/ It's a tutorial for specifically KOF but it will help you nonetheless understand the importance of CLSN box alignments.
- Some of the basic attack's (punches and kicks) sprites are misaligned. Usually a good clue that they are not flowing together is the placement of the feet when a character attacks. If the foot jumps around the floor, it means the sprites have not been aligned. This chart is a reference for the required sprites, but the placement of them is basic for the rest of the sprites:

Fighter Factory has a set of guidelines (literally) which can be found under the Show>Guidelines menu within Fighter Factory. Those blue lines are essential when aligning the sprite's feet placement during attacks. They have saved me countless hours of extra aligning. I suggest using them for Robin.
- You are missing a set of required animations (sprite set 5300).
- The dash-back animation needs some work. Either animate it higher, or change it. It is almost out of place as a dash-back move. That's my opinion though... you guys may not really mind it.
- Clean up the rar file. Remove the extra .pcx files and all the backup files (.BAK) and include only the usual required files (readme, sff, cns, air, etc.) if for any reason, to reduce the download size and rename all the files (e.g. act files... hayato.act?) to the same thing... like robin.sff, robin.cns, robin.act, ect.

Once you guys clean this up, then the real feedback about the feel of the character and interaction with other characters can begin. Tweaking is a never ending battle. Good luck Team Spoiler

Thanx that will speed up the bug finding process, I would also add that all the animations are ligned up off target, and a several sprites need touched up, and the Raven/Cyborg helper tends to kind of hover. Other than that I think you found 90% of the items Im working on.

Weapon x program · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2008, 09:30:34 PM »

i m working on two new moves just for you

CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! · « **Reply #16 on:** May 21, 2008, 09:51:12 PM »

Teen Titans GO!!!

nice Accidental release!!

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2008, 11:58:09 PM »

Wasn't the stance stolen from Excursion's Robin WIP

Joking guys . Excursion made that for us

Anyway good constructive is appreciated . Read Excursion's feedback before you post yours .

Weapon x program · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2008, 03:55:18 AM »

i accept all comments it s freedom of speech, but i just love positive comments

Worksa8 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2008, 07:13:19 AM »

Quote from: JASONTODD on May 22, 2008, 03:55:18 AM

i accept all comments it s freedom of speech, but i just love positive comments

Don't we all? x3
I really do like how robin plays though...

Captain Cold · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2008, 01:37:30 PM »

over all very nice robin i like big inprovement over the first....i always love your guys work

Feedback -

Clns boxes were already stated need over haul....

sometimes he gets stuck in the air

and he does supers with out any energy the staff one definitely....

other than that very nice the standing stace is

better but still needs some tweaking

good job and good luck i like where this is heading great job

Weapon x program · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2008, 01:46:03 PM »

over all very nice robin i like big inprovement over the first....i always love your guys work

Feedback -

Clns boxes were already stated need over haul....
JT: ok

sometimes he gets stuck in the air

JT: yes i hate when he does that

and he does supers with out any energy the staff one definitely....
jt: that s a good thing because he is my second character

when i play mugen and i need some help

other than that very nice the standing stace is

better but still needs some tweaking

good job and good luck i like where this is heading great job

jt: thanks

.Batzarro. · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2008, 02:23:15 PM »

Yea, definitely need to fix the thing about Robin not needing any meters to do some hypers. The computer abuses it a lot and it becomes pretty cheap IMO. Hal Jordan has the same problem with his knight on a horse hyper.

Oh, and not sure if it's been fixed or not, but his tease makes him invincible. He can not be hit period when he does it.

Alexziq · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2008, 03:24:33 PM »

Quote from: .Batzarro. on May 22, 2008, 02:23:15 PM

Yea, definitely need to fix the thing about Robin not needing any meters to do some hypers. The computer abuses it a lot and it becomes pretty cheap IMO. Hal Jordan has the same problem with his knight on a horse hyper.

Oh, and not sure if it's been fixed or not, but his tease makes him invincible. He can not be hit period when he does it.

The weird thing is all the meters are there. The only I can think is its doing them on certain variables. There isnt any missing code though.

I_Burner · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2008, 08:11:31 PM »

Sweet! Even though you guys are still working on him, it was still a nice surprise to see this update released. Hopefully I'll have a chance to try him out tonight!

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