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« on: April 03, 2008, 10:14:33 PM »
in SFII the movie why is SHADALOO called SHADOWLAW ????

http://fightingstreet.com/folders/variousinfofolder/eastereggs/isitq.html
is this really Q from SFIII

in MVC2 why was'nt there character endings ?

in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

why were'nt chun li and charlie shadow and shadow lady in MVC2 ?

will capcom ever make another fighting crossover like CAPCOM FIGHTING JAM but better and new fighting systems with infinite combos ?


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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2008, 10:16:22 PM »
Chun-Li was in MvC2.

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 10:17:47 PM »
Chun-Li was in MvC2.
but she was'nt shadow lady like in mvc, then how is MVC2 a sequel ? that is so weird
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 10:21:44 PM »
in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

I find that kind of weird how MVC2 seems to take place during the SFA series yet MVC seems to take place during SF3 so it seems that MVC took place after MVC2.

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2008, 10:23:04 PM »
in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

I find that kind of weird how MVC2 seems to take place during the SFA series yet MVC seems to take place during SF3 so it seems that MVC took place after MVC2.
And they only put in like the 12 characters that survived.

MvC = MvC2
MvC2 = MvC
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 10:26:41 PM »
in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

I find that kind of weird how MVC2 seems to take place during the SFA series yet MVC seems to take place during SF3 so it seems that MVC took place after MVC2.
u mean a PREQUEL or just capcom reusing sprites instead of making new 1's, but MVC2 is a sequel because it has 2 in the title, and if it was a PREQUEL it would'nt have the 2 in the title sooooooooooooooooo haaaaah !!!!!!!  :P
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 10:33:42 PM »
Unlike the other Marvel vs Capcom series...
(That had weird stories @-))

MvsC 2 doesn't seems to have a plot. o.O#
Is more of a random fighting game if you ask me. ???
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 10:37:01 PM »
MvsC 2 doesn't seems to have a plot. o.O#
Is more of a random fighting game if you ask me. ???
u got a point there .

how could it have no story if capcom vs. snk 2 had a story and also ends for characters including shin akuma and GOD RUGAL ?
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2008, 10:42:41 PM »
Two words for that...
"L-a-z-y C-a-p-c-o-m"

Even Capcom seems to go from the top of the world, to the deepest bottom of hell sometimes and vice versa.
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2008, 10:51:30 PM »
in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

I find that kind of weird how MVC2 seems to take place during the SFA series yet MVC seems to take place during SF3 so it seems that MVC took place after MVC2.
u mean a PREQUEL or just capcom reusing sprites instead of making new 1's, but MVC2 is a sequel because it has 2 in the title, and if it was a PREQUEL it would'nt have the 2 in the title sooooooooooooooooo haaaaah !!!!!!!  :P

I think Capcom was just lazy in remaking some characters sprites (ie. Ken) so they just used the SFA versions of the characters. Also some
games aren't numbered by chronological order.

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2008, 10:57:05 PM »
MvC2 was just a cash-in game.

1) Spelling error that was not corrected for the english dub.

2) That Q thing was just a coincidence. He didn't even exist back when the game came out.

3) MvC2 was team based, so endings would make no sense for that many characters. That and there's a central story to the game. (Abyss)

4) Capcom re-used the latest SF sprites, which were from SFA, for the MvC series. Ken had his short hair because Sean was there (DUH), which would make it take place somewhere between SF2 and SF3. And Ryu always had his red headband ever since SFA2.

5) Story wise, Shadow is no more. And Shadow Lady was just a cyborg, so maybe it shut down or something. Actually, they were just pallate swaps to add more characters to the game.

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 11:03:29 PM »
in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

I find that kind of weird how MVC2 seems to take place during the SFA series yet MVC seems to take place during SF3 so it seems that MVC took place after MVC2.
u mean a PREQUEL or just capcom reusing sprites instead of making new 1's, but MVC2 is a sequel because it has 2 in the title, and if it was a PREQUEL it would'nt have the 2 in the title sooooooooooooooooo haaaaah !!!!!!!  :P
Devil May Cry games anyone??wasn`t the 3rd game supposed to happen before the first or third one apparently??

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 11:05:35 PM »
in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

I find that kind of weird how MVC2 seems to take place during the SFA series yet MVC seems to take place during SF3 so it seems that MVC took place after MVC2.
u mean a PREQUEL or just capcom reusing sprites instead of making new 1's, but MVC2 is a sequel because it has 2 in the title, and if it was a PREQUEL it would'nt have the 2 in the title sooooooooooooooooo haaaaah !!!!!!!  :P
Devil May Cry games anyone??wasn`t the 3rd game supposed to happen before the first or third one apparently??


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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2008, 12:46:18 AM »
There is nothing to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 other than the fact that it's a fighting game. The entire Vs series is non-canonical so not having individual endings doesn't really matter. Neither series takes place during SFA or SF2 or SF3, they just used the SFA sprites because they matched the style of the Marvel sprites, which equals lazyness. The same reason why the Vampire Savior characters didn't get new sprites, they already matched.
 
If you notice, there are no sercet-clone characters. By that I mean, no one is that that share sprites that didn't exist as a already selectable characters. The only expection to this rule is Roll, even though she was a secret character in MvC, he sprites are original. The two wolverines don't apply because of the Bone and Metal difference. So even though Shadow Lady had different moves, she already shared chun-li's sprites, just like Shadow shares sprites with Shadow. Same reason why there's no Armored Spiderman, U.S. Agent Cap, Mephisto Blackheart, Gold War Machine, Hyper Venom (it's Ain't Carnage, I don't care what anyone says), Orange Hulk, Lillith Morrigan, etc.

Capcom was making a Capcom vs Sammy, but they canceled it because they're sore losers.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2008, 12:55:29 AM »
There is nothing to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 other than the fact that it's a fighting game. The entire Vs series is non-canonical so not having individual endings doesn't really matter. Neither series takes place during SFA or SF2 or SF3, they just used the SFA sprites because they matched the style of the Marvel sprites, which equals lazyness. The same reason why the Vampire Savior characters didn't get new sprites, they already matched.
 
If you notice, there are no sercet-clone characters. By that I mean, no one is that that share sprites that didn't exist as a already selectable characters. The only expection to this rule is Roll, even though she was a secret character in MvC, he sprites are original. The two wolverines don't apply because of the Bone and Metal difference. So even though Shadow Lady had different moves, she already shared chun-li's sprites, just like Shadow shares sprites with Shadow. Same reason why there's no Armored Spiderman, U.S. Agent Cap, Mephisto Blackheart, Gold War Machine, Hyper Venom (it's Ain't Carnage, I don't care what anyone says), Orange Hulk, Lillith Morrigan, etc.

Capcom was making a Capcom vs Sammy, but they canceled it because they're sore losers.

They didn't cancel it because they were butthurt. (but then again, this is off-topic so shhhh....>.>)
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 01:01:20 AM »
There is nothing to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 other than the fact that it's a fighting game. The entire Vs series is non-canonical so not having individual endings doesn't really matter. Neither series takes place during SFA or SF2 or SF3, they just used the SFA sprites because they matched the style of the Marvel sprites, which equals lazyness. The same reason why the Vampire Savior characters didn't get new sprites, they already matched.
 
If you notice, there are no sercet-clone characters. By that I mean, no one is that that share sprites that didn't exist as a already selectable characters. The only expection to this rule is Roll, even though she was a secret character in MvC, he sprites are original. The two wolverines don't apply because of the Bone and Metal difference. So even though Shadow Lady had different moves, she already shared chun-li's sprites, just like Shadow shares sprites with Shadow. Same reason why there's no Armored Spiderman, U.S. Agent Cap, Mephisto Blackheart, Gold War Machine, Hyper Venom (it's Ain't Carnage, I don't care what anyone says), Orange Hulk, Lillith Morrigan, etc.

Capcom was making a Capcom vs Sammy, but they canceled it because they're sore losers.

They didn't cancel it because they were butthurt. (but then again, this is off-topic so shhhh....>.>)

Sure they are. They asked the fanbase what style they're rather see Cap vs. Sammy in, expect the fans to pick Cap style. So when the fans chose sammy style, lo and behold, cancelled.

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2008, 01:12:10 AM »
There is nothing to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 other than the fact that it's a fighting game. The entire Vs series is non-canonical so not having individual endings doesn't really matter. Neither series takes place during SFA or SF2 or SF3, they just used the SFA sprites because they matched the style of the Marvel sprites, which equals lazyness. The same reason why the Vampire Savior characters didn't get new sprites, they already matched.
 
If you notice, there are no sercet-clone characters. By that I mean, no one is that that share sprites that didn't exist as a already selectable characters. The only expection to this rule is Roll, even though she was a secret character in MvC, he sprites are original. The two wolverines don't apply because of the Bone and Metal difference. So even though Shadow Lady had different moves, she already shared chun-li's sprites, just like Shadow shares sprites with Shadow. Same reason why there's no Armored Spiderman, U.S. Agent Cap, Mephisto Blackheart, Gold War Machine, Hyper Venom (it's Ain't Carnage, I don't care what anyone says), Orange Hulk, Lillith Morrigan, etc.

Capcom was making a Capcom vs Sammy, but they canceled it because they're sore losers.

They didn't cancel it because they were butthurt. (but then again, this is off-topic so shhhh....>.>)

Sure they are. They asked the fanbase what style they're rather see Cap vs. Sammy in, expect the fans to pick Cap style. So when the fans chose sammy style, lo and behold, cancelled.



I don't believe you about the fanbase thing.
Capcom seemed pretty enthusiatic about the hi-res graphics during the initial press-release.
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2008, 10:07:21 PM »
in MVC2 how come ryu and ken and other characters look the same but in MVC end ken had short hair which probably took place around SFII and ryu with his red bandana ken gave him with sean ? i think mvc took place before, middle, or after SFIII !?

I find that kind of weird how MVC2 seems to take place during the SFA series yet MVC seems to take place during SF3 so it seems that MVC took place after MVC2.
u mean a PREQUEL or just capcom reusing sprites instead of making new 1's, but MVC2 is a sequel because it has 2 in the title, and if it was a PREQUEL it would'nt have the 2 in the title sooooooooooooooooo haaaaah !!!!!!!  :P
I don't think Capcom cares about numbering apparently.
Apparently SF4 is a prequel to SF3
DMC3 is a prequel to DMC1 and DMC4 is a prequel to DMC2

Shadow Lady was one of my favorite characters in MvC1 and I was disappointed she wasn't found anywhere in MvC2. Oh well. I'm still surprised Tron and Servebot made it into MvC2 after the lukewarm reception MML got from old school fanboys.  Although I think Megaman Juno would make a killer boss.

Also Ryu wears red after he wears white (I mean headbands... which is probably why we don't see Ken in MvC1 since Ryu is wearing a red bandanna... that's my theory anyways).

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2008, 11:59:40 PM »
I don't think Capcom cares about numbering apparently.
Apparently SF4 is a prequel to SF3
DMC3 is a prequel to DMC1 and DMC4 is a prequel to DMC2

Shadow Lady was one of my favorite characters in MvC1 and I was disappointed she wasn't found anywhere in MvC2. Oh well. I'm still surprised Tron and Servebot made it into MvC2 after the lukewarm reception MML got from old school fanboys.  Although I think Megaman Juno would make a killer boss.

Also Ryu wears red after he wears white (I mean headbands... which is probably why we don't see Ken in MvC1 since Ryu is wearing a red bandanna... that's my theory anyways).


Have they sais SF4 is before SF3?

Also, I figured Ken wasn't in MvC cause Ryu had the whole "Complete Change" Super thing going on. He was a 3-in-1 Shotokan. QCB + MP for Ken, QCB + HP for Akuma, QCB + LP for Ryu.
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2008, 12:21:49 AM »
I don't think Capcom cares about numbering apparently.
Apparently SF4 is a prequel to SF3
DMC3 is a prequel to DMC1 and DMC4 is a prequel to DMC2

Shadow Lady was one of my favorite characters in MvC1 and I was disappointed she wasn't found anywhere in MvC2. Oh well. I'm still surprised Tron and Servebot made it into MvC2 after the lukewarm reception MML got from old school fanboys.  Although I think Megaman Juno would make a killer boss.

Also Ryu wears red after he wears white (I mean headbands... which is probably why we don't see Ken in MvC1 since Ryu is wearing a red bandanna... that's my theory anyways).


Have they said SF4 is before SF3?

Also, I figured Ken wasn't in MvC cause Ryu had the whole "Complete Change" Super thing going on. He was a 3-in-1 Shotokan. QCB + MP for Ken, QCB + HP for Akuma, QCB + LP for Ryu.
Yes. SF4 takes place before SF3.
They decided to do this because it opens a gateway to the veteran characters such as Guile, E.Honda, Dhalsim, Balrog/Bison, Sagat and many other characters who were in SF2 but didn't appear in SF3.
It is during this time Eliza is pregnant with Mel, Ken's son.
Chun-li is searching for survivors of Shadowloo, and so is Guile, which is the reason of the existence for the new character from Shadowloo.

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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2008, 04:23:22 AM »
has somebody noticed that wolverine is the only character to appear in every capcom-marvel game.  :-??
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has somebody noticed that wolverine is the only character to appear in every capcom-marvel game.  :-??
that's not true what about ryu.

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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2008, 01:08:11 PM »
has somebody noticed that wolverine is the only character to appear in every capcom-marvel game.  :-??
that's not true what about ryu.

I think he's counting it as "Capcom Marvel" not "Marvel vs Capcom" in which case he'd be right.

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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2008, 04:31:32 AM »
yep
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Re: capcom questions
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 10:40:01 AM »
Like Wolverine Akuma always appears too.  Except for in MVC1 but Ryu can change into him, so he's really there...   ;D

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